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I want to reply to more in your post, but I don't have time. We'll just start with this.

 

 

 

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Let me ask you a couple questions:

 

How do you have Faith, without it being Absolutely Blind, without Substance?

 

You can read a Book stating 3 Toed Gnomes Rule the Universe...and to believe that would be "Blind" Faith, because there's No Evidence or Substance.

 

How is that different than what you've been talking about?


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haha...you crack me up Enoch...You do know the Kracken is mythical right?

 

 

Are you Absolutely Sure?  :)


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I want to reply to more in your post, but I don't have time. We'll just start with this.

 

 

 

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Let me ask you a couple questions:

 

How do you have Faith, without it being Absolutely Blind, without Substance?

 

You can read a Book stating 3 Toed Gnomes Rule the Universe...and to believe that would be "Blind" Faith, because there's No Evidence or Substance.

 

How is that different than what you've been talking about?

 

 

Faith is a combination of both, there is reason behind it but eventually evidence can only take you so far and you have to let faith take over.

 

Looking at the Heb 11 chapter...

 

By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith

 

Noah had no understanding of a flood or even rain, yet his faith in God allowed him to act in the absence of evidence of these things because presumably he had enough evidence that God would keep his word.


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haha...you crack me up Enoch...You do know the Kracken is mythical right?

 

 

Are you Absolutely Sure?  :)

Yep


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haha...you crack me up Enoch...You do know the Kracken is mythical right?

 

 

Are you Absolutely Sure?  :)

 

Yep

 

 

I am starting to think that Enoch's Kraken is all in his mind as well.  Been hearing about it for a while now, yet still no sightings.


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I am starting to think that Enoch's Kraken is all in his mind as well.  Been hearing about it for a while now, yet still no sightings.

 

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Too funny,

 

Don't mistake delay and or patience with the lack of Devastating Ferociousness.  :happyhappy:


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Faith is a combination of both

 

Wrong.  Initially it isn't

 

 

of things not seen as yet

 

Just because things are not seen doesn't mean there's a lack of evidence.


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Faith is a combination of both

 

Wrong.  Initially it isn't

 

 

of things not seen as yet

 

Just because things are not seen doesn't mean there's a lack of evidence.

 

 

Didn't say it did, but there comes a point where the evidence stops and faith has to finish the journey.  But if the evidence finishes the journey for you, then no faith is needed, or even possible.   Once you have definitive proof faith is no longer an option.   I will go back to my previous example.  I can tell you I have $10 in my wallet.  If you have known me for 10 years and knew that I always carried cash for emergencies and that I would not lie to you, then the evidence would lead you to have faith I did in deed have $10 in my wallet.  Now, once I open my wallet and show you the $10 dollars you no longer need faith to know that it is there, and it is in fact impossible to have. 


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Didn't say it did, but there comes a point where the evidence stops and faith has to finish the journey.

 

Oh yea, But substance first.

 

 

But if the evidence finishes the journey for you, then no faith is needed, or even possible.

 

Too General.  Faith in what specifically with Almighty GOD?

 

I see two categories: 

 

Faith that HE exists.

 

Faith HE will keep HIS Promises.

 

Once you have definitive proof faith is no longer an option.

 

Again to General.  Provide an Example of this with ALMIGHTY GOD


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Didn't say it did, but there comes a point where the evidence stops and faith has to finish the journey.

 

Oh yea, But substance first.

 

 

But if the evidence finishes the journey for you, then no faith is needed, or even possible.

 

Too General.  Faith in what specifically with Almighty GOD?

 

I see two categories: 

 

Faith that HE exists.

 

Faith HE will keep HIS Promises.

 

Once you have definitive proof faith is no longer an option.

 

Again to General.  Provide an Example of this with ALMIGHTY GOD

 

 

An example of this is that until the day we stand face to face with God there is none, and can be no definitive proof that He actually exist, there will always be an element of faith involved.  I say this is by His design, God wants us to rely on Him, and our faith in Him is part of that.   We are told that it is our faith that saves us, if we have proof of God then there is no longer any faith and we cannot be saved.  That is why on the day of judgement it will be too late for people, by then the chance of faith is gone.  Those Christians that try to prove that God exist are missing the point.  Provide evidence, that is a good thing, but never forget the vital role of faith in the process.   Faith need not be blind, but it does need to fill in where the evidence leaves off.  To say you have proof of God or that you have proven God exist is to belittle His requirement for faith.

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