WN: Syrian Christians sign treaty of submission to Islamists - Times

[Quantrill]

other one

 

Good thing the disciples faith was greater than these Christians.   Good thing the early churches faith was greater than these Christians.  Good thing John the Baptist faith was greater.  And Jesus faith also. etc. etc.   Good thing the tribulation saints will not take your advice.  Instead they will give their lives willingly.  

 

Rev. 12:11 " And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

 

I understand fully what will happen.  They will be killed. 

 

What you don't understand is that Christianity is not a game.  Its real.   It's real eternal life.  And its real persecution when it comes.  

 

Im not saying you seek persecution.  But when it comes, you don't sign away your faith to the false relgions like islam.  How much value is their testimony now?   Zilch.  Nada.  None.

 

Quantrill

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[other one]

If the first century Christians had done what you are suggesting, we might not have ever heard of Jesus     They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches...

[EnochBethany]

If the first century Christians had done what you are suggesting, we might not have ever heard of Jesus     They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches...

"They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches.."

 

What leads you to that conclusion? 

 

Now in Jerusalem, an environment whose hostility is measured by the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus, the stoning of Stephen, and the murder of James (brother of John), did the believers hide in underground churches, or hold meetings at the Temple in Solomon's porch.

[other one]

 

What leads you to that conclusion? 

 

History???

[Quantrill]

If the first century Christians had done what you are suggesting, we might not have ever heard of Jesus     They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches...

 

Your dreamin.

 

Because the first century Christians were willing to die for their faith, and did die for their faith,  then you and I have the example of those who have the faith.  As I said before, the testimony of those who signed a pact with islam is worthless now.  Their testimony means nothing.

 

Quantrill

Edited March 2, 2014 by Quantrill

[EnochBethany]

 

 

What leads you to that conclusion? 

 

History???

 

Which ancient works say they didn't take their faith to the streets?  Suetonius?  Tacitus?  Pliny?  Eusebius?

[other one]

 

If the first century Christians had done what you are suggesting, we might not have ever heard of Jesus     They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches...

 

Your dreamin.

 

Because the first century Christians were willing to die for their faith, and did die for their faith,  then you and I have the example of those who have the faith.  As I said before, the testimony of those who signed a pact with islam is worthless now.  Their testimony means nothing.

 

Quantrill

 

Each to his own....     When it comes to worshiping the beast i'll die along beside of you......    but until it's mandatory, I'll stay alive to help others below the surface.

[Quantrill]

 

 

If the first century Christians had done what you are suggesting, we might not have ever heard of Jesus     They didn't take their faith to the streets, but to underground churches...

 

Your dreamin.

 

Because the first century Christians were willing to die for their faith, and did die for their faith,  then you and I have the example of those who have the faith.  As I said before, the testimony of those who signed a pact with islam is worthless now.  Their testimony means nothing.

 

Quantrill

 

Each to his own....     When it comes to worshiping the beast i'll die along beside of you......    but until it's mandatory, I'll stay alive to help others below the surface.

 

 

I really doubt that.  But as you say, each to his own.    But you won't be next to me.

 

Quantrill

[nebula]

Quantrill, I appreciate your zeal. But do you recall Prov. 19:2 - It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.

 

One doesn't have to preaching on the street corner and meeting in a building called a church to be strong in their faith, you know?

[Quantrill]

nebula

 

Thanks, and pleasure meeting you.  Yes, I am familiar with the verse.  I am not sure how I am stating things without 'knowlege' or being 'hasty', or 'missing the way'.  I believe we as Christians have the very statements of Christ and the example of Christ in being willing to give our lives for Him and God, if called on to do that.  And we have the example of the people of God down through the ages, Old and New Testament, who have had to do that very thing.

 

Of course one does not have to be preaching on a street corner to be strong in faith.  Or meeting in a church building.  But, when you as a Christian are captured by those of the world and false religions such as islam,  and they draw up a paper for you to sign which states the superiority of islam over Christ, which states you are not to witness to others as commanded by Christ,...do you sign it?

 

No.  You don't.  Would Daniel have signed it?   Would Jesus have signed it?  Of course not.  Then why do Christians now days think they are to take the easy road, live to witness another day.  But, in doing that, you lose your testimony.   What value shall their witness be to any muslim now?    The islamist did just what they wanted to do.  They showed the superiority of islam over these Christians because these Christians faith in Christ did not overcome their fear of the muslims sword.   Satan in using the islamist destroyed these Christians witness.

 

 

Quantrill