other one Posted April 12, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,116 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,847 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2014 I would guess that Lucifer had taken over the body of the King of Tyre...... or had it made for him to exist in.... The first part of that scripture was for the human side of the King and the second was for Lucifer at a later date. Anyway that's the gospel according to Sam..... at least until I see something that makes more sense. No human could fit the second part of that scripture..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-seeker Posted April 15, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 589 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/06/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2014 Ezk 28 14.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16.By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17.Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18.Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. Is this him I am not sure how that quote is a response to my questions--but I do not regard that passage as referring to Satan or any angel. It is clearly referring to the King of Tyre and is using Edenic imagery and metaphor. clb Some of the prophetic scriptures have double meanings. There is the obvious one, and then there is the hidden one. God was speaking to the King of Tyre, but then began speaking of Lucifer. There are things in this passage where you know it couldn't have been speaking of anyone but the devil. I have my doubts. We could easily be seeing in this passage references to Satan because we already have a conception of Satan which makes us see him where he isn't. clb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donibm Posted April 17, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/09/1974 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Do you think angels have free will? Well, you can't Judge what doesn't have FREE WILL no more than you can judge a dishwasher for doing what it was created for. And angels are also judged, and Scripture even go as far as saying that the SAINTS will Jjudge angels. Amazing how the LESSER one day will rule over the GREATER. Probably because our eyes have never seen God as angels have, but we trust, believe and serve, where THEY kinda have no choice BUT to believe that He is the One and Only God ... because their eyes have seen Him and His good and terrible works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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