Pope calls Muslims 'brothers' at Dome of the Rock

[GoldenEagle]

 

are you sure he's a Christian?

Do I think he is genuine Bible believing follower of Christ?  No.  He is a Christian in that he belongs to the institutional Christian religion.

 

 

Question: You know this how?

[Qnts2]

From a strict fundamental interpretation of scriptures, those who are born again by faith alone in Jesus alone are brothers. Anyone else who does not fit that category are also brothers but not the same family. So basically, there are two families of brothers.

 

I don't know to which family the Pope is a member. He might be right when he says Muslims are his brothers.    

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

are you sure he's a Christian?

Do I think he is genuine Bible believing follower of Christ?  No.  He is a Christian in that he belongs to the institutional Christian religion.

 

 

Question: You know this how?

 

His own theology demonstrates it.  He says that atheists can do  good and go to heaven.  He says that one cannot be a Christian without the Roman Church.

 

One cannot be a devout Roman Catholic AND be a genuine follower of Jesus because RCC theology precludes it.  The Gospel preached in the NT is not in RCC theology.

[Fez]

We have cleaned up a lot of personal stuff on this thread. Any more and we will lock it.

[other one]

 

 

 

are you sure he's a Christian?

Do I think he is genuine Bible believing follower of Christ?  No.  He is a Christian in that he belongs to the institutional Christian religion.

 

 

Question: You know this how?

 

His own theology demonstrates it.  He says that atheists can do  good and go to heaven.  He says that one cannot be a Christian without the Roman Church.

 

One cannot be a devout Roman Catholic AND be a genuine follower of Jesus because RCC theology precludes it.  The Gospel preached in the NT is not in RCC theology.

 

I'm not sure what a "institutional Christian Religion" is...

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

are you sure he's a Christian?

Do I think he is genuine Bible believing follower of Christ?  No.  He is a Christian in that he belongs to the institutional Christian religion.

 

 

Question: You know this how?

 

His own theology demonstrates it.  He says that atheists can do  good and go to heaven.  He says that one cannot be a Christian without the Roman Church.

 

One cannot be a devout Roman Catholic AND be a genuine follower of Jesus because RCC theology precludes it.  The Gospel preached in the NT is not in RCC theology.

 

I'm not sure what a "institutional Christian Religion" is...

 

It refers to the external Christian culture.  There are people who put their faith in their church attendance, denominational affiliation, the fact that they were baptized as an infant, perform all of the prayers, rituals and sacraments.  They sing in the choir and even sit on church committees.  It is a version of Christianity that doesn't have Christ in it.

[other one]

 

 

 

 

 

are you sure he's a Christian?

Do I think he is genuine Bible believing follower of Christ?  No.  He is a Christian in that he belongs to the institutional Christian religion.

 

 

Question: You know this how?

 

His own theology demonstrates it.  He says that atheists can do  good and go to heaven.  He says that one cannot be a Christian without the Roman Church.

 

One cannot be a devout Roman Catholic AND be a genuine follower of Jesus because RCC theology precludes it.  The Gospel preached in the NT is not in RCC theology.

 

I'm not sure what a "institutional Christian Religion" is...

 

It refers to the external Christian culture.  There are people who put their faith in their church attendance, denominational affiliation, the fact that they were baptized as an infant, perform all of the prayers, rituals and sacraments.  They sing in the choir and even sit on church committees.  It is a version of Christianity that doesn't have Christ in it.

 

hummmm,   I guess I just wouldn't call that a christian organization....   that was what was confusing to me personally.

[ayin jade]

From a strict fundamental interpretation of scriptures, those who are born again by faith alone in Jesus alone are brothers. Anyone else who does not fit that category are also brothers but not the same family. So basically, there are two families of brothers.

 

I don't know to which family the Pope is a member. He might be right when he says Muslims are his brothers.    

 

Scriptural support for the view that unbelievers are brothers please.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

From a strict fundamental interpretation of scriptures, those who are born again by faith alone in Jesus alone are brothers. Anyone else who does not fit that category are also brothers but not the same family. So basically, there are two families of brothers.

 

I don't know to which family the Pope is a member. He might be right when he says Muslims are his brothers.    

 

Scriptural support for the view that unbelievers are brothers please.

 

Qnts was being sarcastic on that last line.  "his brothers"   not, "our brothers."

[Qnts2]

 

From a strict fundamental interpretation of scriptures, those who are born again by faith alone in Jesus alone are brothers. Anyone else who does not fit that category are also brothers but not the same family. So basically, there are two families of brothers.

 

I don't know to which family the Pope is a member. He might be right when he says Muslims are his brothers.    

 

Scriptural support for the view that unbelievers are brothers please.

 

 

There is no direct scriptural support. Believers are of like spirit. Unbelievers are of like spirit. Believers have God as their Father and are called the sons of God. Unbelievers are said to have a common spritual father, the devil. So, it can be said that the devil is the father of unbelievers, and unbelievers are sons of the devil.  So, following that flow, unbelievers have a common father and would be brothers.

 

John 8:44

You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.