The word 'olam'

[dscapp]

Death and Hell are thrown into the lake of fire.  Unbelievers will suffer for eternity in the Lake of Fire.   There is an unending eternal punishment there.

 

So you believe Isa 66:24 is referring to the lake of fire,

and you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why?

Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Death and Hell are thrown into the lake of fire.  Unbelievers will suffer for eternity in the Lake of Fire.   There is an unending eternal punishment there.

 

So you believe Isa 66:24 is referring to the lake of fire,

and you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why?

Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

 

No, I wasn't referencing Isa. 66.   I figured you would recognize that I was referencing Revelation 20.   I guess I needed to spell that out.

[dscapp]

 

 

Death and Hell are thrown into the lake of fire.  Unbelievers will suffer for eternity in the Lake of Fire.   There is an unending eternal punishment there.

 

So you believe Isa 66:24 is referring to the lake of fire,

and you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why?

Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

 

No, I wasn't referencing Isa. 66.   I figured you would recognize that I was referencing Revelation 20.   I guess I needed to spell that out.

 

 

Just answer my questions man, you don't have to be a...

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

Death and Hell are thrown into the lake of fire.  Unbelievers will suffer for eternity in the Lake of Fire.   There is an unending eternal punishment there.

 

So you believe Isa 66:24 is referring to the lake of fire,

and you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why?

Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

 

No, I wasn't referencing Isa. 66.   I figured you would recognize that I was referencing Revelation 20.   I guess I needed to spell that out.

 

 

Just answer my questions man, you don't have to be a...

 

I just did.   I am not talking about Isa. 66 thus your question is a nonstarter.  Your questioned was premised on something I didn't intend to say.  I don't need answer a question based on something I didn't actually say.

[dscapp]

I just did.   I am not talking about Isa. 66 thus your question is a nonstarter.  Your questioned was premised on something I didn't intend to say.  I don't need answer a question based on something I didn't actually say.

 

Ok so let's start over then. In Isa 66:24, do you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why? Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

[Guest shiloh357]

 

I just did.   I am not talking about Isa. 66 thus your question is a nonstarter.  Your questioned was premised on something I didn't intend to say.  I don't need answer a question based on something I didn't actually say.

 

Ok so let's start over then. In Isa 66:24, do you believe Jesus wasn't giving us a picture metaphor about the fire dump in Jerusalem? If so why? Also, what does 'worm' refer too..worm that does not die. Is the worm their soul?

 

Isa. 66 has nothing to do with Gehenna.   It is talking about the dead bodies that will litter the ground after the war of Armageddon.   Note. v. 15.

[dscapp]

Isa. 66 has nothing to do with Gehenna.   It is talking about the dead bodies that will litter the ground after the war of Armageddon.   Note. v. 15.

 

Ok, so if that's true then in Isa 66:24, the worm will eventually die and the fire will be quenched because the fire will burn out and the ground will be made holy to the Lord. So why wouldn't this be an example of Gehenna.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Isa. 66 has nothing to do with Gehenna.   It is talking about the dead bodies that will litter the ground after the war of Armageddon.   Note. v. 15.

 

Ok, so if that's true then in Isa 66:24, the worm will eventually die and the fire will be quenched because the fire will burn out and the ground will be made holy to the Lord. So why wouldn't this be an example of Gehenna.

 

Because it is not Gehenna.   Evidently, after the war of Armageddon, they will simply burn the bodies in the field where they lay.   There is no call for this to be an example of Gehenna. If that were the intent the author would have told us so.  You need to let the Bible speak for itself rather than attempting to assign values to the text.  

 

The text is using a bit of hyperbole to make the point that the fire is going to burn a long time, well into the milennium and people will be able to see the carcasses and it will serve as a reminder of what happened to those who rebelled against the Lord.   There is no connection here to Gehenna/Hell.  That is not even close to the point the text is trying to make.  Stop trying to force meanings into the text that are simply not there.

[dscapp]

Because it is not Gehenna.   Evidently, after the war of Armageddon, they will simply burn the bodies in the field where they lay.   There is no call for this to be an example of Gehenna. If that were the intent the author would have told us so.  You need to let the Bible speak for itself rather than attempting to assign values to the text.  

 

The text is using a bit of hyperbole to make the point that the fire is going to burn a long time, well into the milennium and people will be able to see the carcasses and it will serve as a reminder of what happened to those who rebelled against the Lord.   There is no connection here to Gehenna/Hell.  That is not even close to the point the text is trying to make.  Stop trying to force meanings into the text that are simply not there.

 

Ok I understand now. Thank you. Also, in Rev 20:10 since forever and ever are English translations, would it be logical to say it's not forever and ever since you had said olam has many usages.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Because it is not Gehenna.   Evidently, after the war of Armageddon, they will simply burn the bodies in the field where they lay.   There is no call for this to be an example of Gehenna. If that were the intent the author would have told us so.  You need to let the Bible speak for itself rather than attempting to assign values to the text.  

 

The text is using a bit of hyperbole to make the point that the fire is going to burn a long time, well into the milennium and people will be able to see the carcasses and it will serve as a reminder of what happened to those who rebelled against the Lord.   There is no connection here to Gehenna/Hell.  That is not even close to the point the text is trying to make.  Stop trying to force meanings into the text that are simply not there.

 

Ok I understand now. Thank you. Also, in Rev 20:10 since forever and ever are English translations, would it be logical to say it's not forever and ever since you had said olam has many usages.

 

Actually, that has nothing to do with olam.   and the context clearly indicates that "forever and ever" in that verse means exactly what it says.  Those in the lake of fire will be tormented forever and ever, eternity after eternity after eternity without end.