Persuaded Posted October 1, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 249 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I might be tempted to give toward such a fund... once they secured the lot of land they intended to build on. Haha! Edited October 1, 2014 by Persuaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted October 4, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted October 4, 2014 No we should not support the building of a new temple on a temple mount. However according to scripture a new temple on the temple mount must be built before Christ returns. 2 Thess. 2:1-4 "Now brethren, concerning the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ and OUR GATHERING TOGATHER UNTO HIM, we ask you not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as from us as though the day of Christ had come. Let no man deceive you by any means; For that day shall not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or worshipped, SO THAT HE SITS IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD SHOWING HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD". By these scriptures we know that before the return of Christ to resurrect us from the grave there will be a falling away which is speaking of a large number Christians who will "suddenly be departing from the faith", the antichrist will be here on the earth and revealed for who and what he is to us. In order for the antichrist to sit in the temple of God there must be a temple of God for him to sit in. So because of these scriptures we know that Jesus will not be returning until after there is a new temple on the temple mount and not until AFTER the antichrist come to earth. WHICH PUTS THE WHOLE IDEA OF A PRE TRIBULATION, PRE ANTICHRIST RESSURECTION IN THE PLACE WHERE IS BELONGS. Which is in the garbage can where false, man made, doctrinal beliefs belong, God does support such things because He prophesied to us that it was going to happen and he will be working behind the scenes to bring this about because He is in control and a new temple on the temple mount is part of His plan for men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted October 18, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I'm confused. Why does it say something like the messiah will build it then it says something about the antichrist. Which one is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted November 12, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2014 - From what I can tell of scriptures there'll be no 3rd Temple. "The glory of THIS LATTER Temple shall be greater the FORMER, says The Lord Of Hosts." - Haggai 2:9 Former and Latter is only two Temples. Plus the phrase 'Holy Place' is in no way synonymous with a just a Temple in scripture. The City Jerusalem it's self is referred to as a holy place in scriptures. God's 'holy mountain' is a holy place spoken of in scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted December 2, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Share Posted December 2, 2014 "The glory of THIS LATTER Temple shall be greater the FORMER, says The Lord Of Hosts." - Haggai 2:9 Former and Latter is only two Temples. It actually means the Temple directly before it, or the glory of the two before it combined. There will certainly be a third Temple. There has to be a Temple for the Antichrist to defile as predicted in Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15-16, and 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted December 2, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2014 I believe that there has already been 2 Temples on earth but these are actually the 2nd and 3rd. Solomons Temple and Herods Temple. Solomons Temple was made after the pattern of the heavenly Temple. The 4th Temple will be defiled by the anti-Christ. The 5th Temple will be the Millenial Temple built by the Messiah. The 1st/6th Temple will be the one in heaven coming down to the New Earth in the New Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted December 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I believe that there has already been 2 Temples on earth but these are actually the 2nd and 3rd. Solomons Temple and Herods Temple. Solomons Temple was made after the pattern of the heavenly Temple. The 4th Temple will be defiled by the anti-Christ. The 5th Temple will be the Millenial Temple built by the Messiah. The 1st/6th Temple will be the one in heaven coming down to the New Earth in the New Jerusalem. Herod's Temple doesn't count. It was built as an extension to the existing temple that was there and was used to worship false gods. It was where the mosque is located today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted December 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2014 I believe that there has already been 2 Temples on earth but these are actually the 2nd and 3rd. Solomons Temple and Herods Temple. Solomons Temple was made after the pattern of the heavenly Temple. The 4th Temple will be defiled by the anti-Christ. The 5th Temple will be the Millenial Temple built by the Messiah. The 1st/6th Temple will be the one in heaven coming down to the New Earth in the New Jerusalem. Herod's Temple doesn't count. It was built as an extension to the existing temple that was there and was used to worship false gods. It was where the mosque is located today. I count it as the '2nd' Temple on earth. It is not viewed as a continuation of Solomons Temple, or an expansion on Solomons Temple. Since I wrote this, it was bothering me that I could come up with 6 Temples. To me, it seems as if there should be 7. So, let me add that Jesus and us are Temples. If we count Jesus and us as 1 Temple, that would make seven. I am not generally big on numerology but that does make a neat number for significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimshon Posted December 16, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 143 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/13/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/05/1967 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) . Edited July 19, 2019 by Shimshon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted December 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,119 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted December 19, 2014 ...the phrase 'Holy Place' is in no way synonymous with a just a Temple in scripture. The City Jerusalem it's self is referred to as a holy place in scriptures. God's 'holy mountain' is a holy place spoken of in scripture. Exactly. So much speculation about another Temple, so little real evidence. Tinky: There has to be a Temple for the Antichrist to defile as predicted in Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15-16, and 2 Thessalonians 2:4. The defilement of Dan. 11:31 was made by Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 168 BC. The passages from Matthew 24 and 2 Thes. 2 speak of a naos/holy place, not necessarily a full temple: see the post quoted above. In Dan. 9:17, Daniel said, "cause your face to shine on your sanctuary/miqdash/holy place, which is desolate." In other words, the holy place does not have to be a building, rather, it is a sacred place in itself, structure or not. And so it is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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