Why are we all so pro israel here?

January 9, 2005

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January 9, 2005

Daniel is a good example of christiandom of Europe.

After rome annexed christianity and turned it into the "state" religion in 325 AD, the hebraic roots were severed and the jews were kicked out.

In order to make eschatological passages work, RC scholars reinterpreted the coming Kingdom of God to be the Holy Roman Empire and all promises given to Israel were reinterpreted to be meant for the "church"

Daniel is a victim of this erronous teaching.

This, among other things, was the very reason the Puritans came to America and also why we are known as a "judeo-christian" nation. Historically, American christians saw our nation as parallel to ancient Israel...and the Puritans, Quakers, and other early American christians believed in perfect faith that the restoration of Israel would come someday (they were right!) and that America was an incubator for it.

Such enlightenment of the scriptures rarely happened in Europe though many great theologians like Charles Spurgeon taught it.

So my point is this....ya'll take it easy on Daniel. He's got a lot of catching up to do and we should help him.

Daniel...have you ever read Romans chapter 9 through 11?

What does it tell you?

angels4u · January 9, 2005

Daniel,

Thank you for answering my question,

you said Jesus saved you from a meaningless life...what did you have to do or believe that He did save you from a meaningless life? Did you have to do something for that? What would happen when you die?

If you would die this instant minute...would you be 100% sure you go to heaven and why would Jesus let you in??

Angels..waiting for you response

Daniel9601 · January 10, 2005

Id die and i reckon id go to heaven, in god in trust that hope.

Its ironic to bash palestinians for claiming 4000 yr old descendance, but the jews are almost the same. Most jews of modern Israel came from Ukrain, the USSR, Poland, and Germany. Europeans mainly. So it further shows a foreign invasion by Jews of a land that once was given to them by god, but now they had to take it themselves.

Botz · January 10, 2005

Daniel9601...

Its ironic to bash palestinians for claiming 4000 yr old descendance, but the jews are almost the same. Most jews of modern Israel came from Ukrain, the USSR, Poland, and Germany. Europeans mainly. So it further shows a foreign invasion by Jews of a land that once was given to them by god, but now they had to take it themselves

Palestinian mythology is well-documented.

Simply put Daniel...the Jews were scattered amongst the nations according to the word of the L-rd...which is why they came back to the land from far and wide...also according to the word of the L-rd.

The land that was given them by G-d was given in perpetuity.

It was never given to them on a plate the first time round...they had to fight to take the land that G-d had given them...and they had to fight from the late 1800's till now to establish themselves once more.

nebula · January 10, 2005

Neb...
The Jews were there during the Roman Empire. This is long before there were a people even called "Arabs".

Not quite true.

My understanding is that Arab ancestry traces its roots back to the offspring of Shem...the eldest of Noahs sons. This can be seen by looking at the areas in which their tribes came and dwelt.

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Hold a second.

The land Israel took after they left Egypt was called Canaan, correct?

Wouldn't that make the inhabitants of the land at the time the decendants of Canaan, who was a descendant of Ham?

angels4u · January 10, 2005

Id die and i reckon id go to heaven, in god in trust that hope.

Why would Jesus let you in??

Daniel9601 · January 10, 2005

Followed his commandments, tried, put my life in his hands, he says all i have to do is beleive in him and i have.

January 10, 2005

Its ironic to bash palestinians for claiming 4000 yr old descendance, but the jews are almost the same. Most jews of modern Israel came from Ukrain, the USSR, Poland, and Germany. Europeans mainly. So it further shows a foreign invasion by Jews of a land that once was given to them by god, but now they had to take it themselves.

The Palestinians do not have a 4,000 year old existance. That is an Arab lie. There is no such thing as a Palestinian. The term "Palestinian" as a reference to Arabs living in the region of Palestine was coined by Arafat in 1964 when he created the PLO. In fact, many of the Arabs at that time resented being called "Palestinian."

Where the Jews came from is irrelevant. The Jewish people have an eternal covenant with God regarding the Land of Israel. It is Jewish Land and will always be Jewish Land and the Arabs who are descendants of Ham, have NO right to one square inch of it.

apothanein kerdos · January 10, 2005

Actually....

Jews have been able to trace their history back in that area to the level of thousands upon thousands of years. Many Jews in that area did not leave when the Romans ordered them to leave Judea (wonder why the area was called Judea by the Romans?).