~esther~ Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 10, 2014 Judges 6:25 That same night the Lord said to him, “Take the second bull from your father’s herd, the one seven years old. Tear down your father’s altar to Baal and cut down the Asherah pole beside it. Why does the bible specifically say the "second bull" and "seven years old"? Is there any significance to the second bull and to the age that the bull should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe_fantastic Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 868 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/09/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1981 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I found this but you scooted out of Chat before I could return and show you....... ...he was to take another, which perhaps belonged to the people, and was the second in birth or age with respect to the former, being seven years old; or, as the Targum is, that had been fatted seven years, and had been so long preparing for the sacrifice of Baal; which was as long as the tyranny of the Midianites over them, and was occasioned by the idolatry of the people of Israel; and such a bullock was ordered to be taken with respect to that, and to show that it would end with the sacrifice of this creature:... http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/judges-6-25.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~esther~ Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks Chloe! So if I understand this correctly: First part: the Israelites were under the oppression of the Midianites for 7 years. The bull was 7 years old. The age of the bull is symbolising the end of a 7 year of tyranny from the Midianites (kill/sacrifice the bull = end of the 7 year oppression) Second part: Observation 1: The "second bull" - the first bull was most likely being fattened for sacrificing to Baal, which would mean it was "unclean" to sacrifice to the Lord, therefore the second bull was fit to be sacrificed. Observation 2: The first bull was sacrificed by Gideon for himself, and the second for the sins of the people - he needed to be clean first before he could bring sacrifices for the people. Observation 3: The second bull = symbolic of the second Adam, which is Jesus Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 10, 2014 Commentaries on the second bull are not extremely informative to me. I have tried to figure it from all ends, but nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks Chloe! So if I understand this correctly: First part: the Israelites were under the oppression of the Midianites for 7 years. The bull was 7 years old. The age of the bull is symbolising the end of a 7 year of tyranny from the Midianites (kill/sacrifice the bull = end of the 7 year oppression) Second part: Observation 1: The "second bull" - the first bull was most likely being fattened for sacrificing to Baal, which would mean it was "unclean" to sacrifice to the Lord, therefore the second bull was fit to be sacrificed. Observation 2: The first bull was sacrificed by Gideon for himself, and the second for the sins of the people - he needed to be clean first before he could bring sacrifices for the people. Observation 3: The second bull = symbolic of the second Adam, which is Jesus Thoughts? It says specifically "the one that is seven years old" it may be that this bull was born before the captivity and was not tainted in any way by the Baal worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Maybe it was just nice and fat and was of a pleasing aspect..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts