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The Church goes through the Tribulation except that only those who keep the word of His patience, are prayerful and watchful will escape the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole world by being first raptured to the throne in 3rd heaven (Rev. 7.9) before the 1st trumpet is blown (8.7).

 

Martyrs from the past 20 centuries are raptured and resurrected at the 1st trumpet according to the 5th Seal of those under the altar giving white robes (righteousnesses of the saints) and told to wait a little longer for the rest of the brethren to come in who are martyred during the Tribulation's 7 years. They are resurrected 3.5 days after they go to rest like Enoch and Elijah the Two Witnesses. We are appointed once to die; only Enoch and Elijah who return who were taken up have not yet died.

 

Also, those alive at the first rapture who overcometh are raptured as well though not resurrected because they are raptured alive. Praise the Lord!

 

And so those who are alive and left 42 months + 5 + 13 months after the start of the Tribulation are raptured alive with those who have been asleep since Adam that are saved (except the martyred since the martyred are rewarded with being taken at the 1st rapture). My prayer is you accept this Jesus when He returns, but first you must have the correct Jesus in your heart now to be ready for Him.

 

Simple.

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The 70th seven occurs at the end of this age commensurate with Jesus' parousia which spans 7 years. First Jesus meets the overcomers alive at the first rapture before the throne in 3rd heaven then Jesus comes on the cloud and through  the cloud over 7 years to meet the saints in the air at the last trumpet. After that Jesus returns with His overcomers to step down on the mount of olives to reign on earth with them over the nations for 1000 years. Simple.

 

In the middle of that 70th seven the covenant or peace treaty established is broken by Antichrist. Then ensues the Great Tribulation of 1260 days. The first 5 months or 1st woe people are not killed. But 1/3 of people die in the 2nd and 3rd woe. The 3rd woe contains the 7 bowls of wrath that lasts 24 months.

 

At the end of those 1260 days Jesus steps down on the mount of olives and will judge the nations from the 1260th to the 1290th day. 30 days. Then Jesus will set up Israel as the center of all nations from the 1290th to the 1335 day (45 days more) from where He will reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years before the New City and New Earth commence.

 

Many do not have faith to believe this so I can't call them my brothers in Christ. They worship another Jesus, a false Christ. Perhaps they claim Jesus is reigning now or they claim there is no rapture, nor according to readiness, so they live carnally.

 

 

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Many do not have faith to believe this so 

 

 

We don't have the Scripture Support to believe it....to be more precise.

 

And since "Biblical Faith" has evidence and substance.....(Hebrews 11:1) "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

 

And we are admonished to.....(1 Thessalonians 5:21) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

 

You must SUPPORT your claims; "Specifically", each and every single one.  

 

 

I can't call them my brothers in Christ.

 

 

This conclusion is based on your faulty premise above; Ergo....it's Invalid. 


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All the main verses were given in this thread. I don't know how to overturn this evidence nor have you been able to so it stands simply for anyone to understand.

 

Therefore, you have excluded yourself from being first raptured because you reject the first rapture according to readiness (you're an antinomian) and will not be "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven before the 1st trumpet (8.7).

 

If you are a Christian you will be raptured at the start of the 7th trumpet instead assuming you are a Christian. Of course that's a big assumption considering your attitude.

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The Church goes through the Tribulation except that only those who keep the word of His patience, are prayerful and watchful will escape the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole world by being first raptured to the throne in 3rd heaven (Rev. 7.9) before the 1st trumpet is blown (8.7).

 

Martyrs from the past 20 centuries are raptured and resurrected at the 1st trumpet according to the 5th Seal of those under the altar giving white robes (righteousnesses of the saints) and told to wait a little longer for the rest of the brethren to come in who are martyred during the Tribulation's 7 years. They are resurrected 3.5 days after they go to rest like Enoch and Elijah the Two Witnesses. We are appointed once to die; only Enoch and Elijah who return who were taken up have not yet died.

 

Also, those alive at the first rapture who overcometh are raptured as well though not resurrected because they are raptured alive. Praise the Lord!

 

And so those who are alive and left 42 months + 5 + 13 months after the start of the Tribulation are raptured alive with those who have been asleep since Adam that are saved (except the martyred since the martyred are rewarded with being taken at the 1st rapture). My prayer is you accept this Jesus when He returns, but first you must have the correct Jesus in your heart now to be ready for Him.

 

Simple.

 

 

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I've already "debunked" these (and others) Step by Step in previous posts then asked for Scripture Support for your claims..... which you have failed to provide.

 

Until such time as you do provide "Specific" Scripture Support for each of your claims, we are done here.

 

Repeating the Same Claims over and over again is not Support.


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I am glad you were not able to debunk the first rapture according to readiness in Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36 and Rev. 3.10.

 

Thank you for your testimony in support of partial rapture.

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If you would like to study more extensively the Partial Rapture Proof you can do so here,

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Partial_rapture.htm


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If you would like to study more extensively the Partial Rapture Proof you can do so here,

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Partial_rapture.htm

 

 

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I am glad you were not able to debunk the first rapture according to readiness in Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36 and Rev. 3.10.

Thank you for your testimony in support of partial rapture.

 

 

The only "Rational" conclusion to be drawn from this statement is you must be replying to someone on a different thread.

 

 

If you would like to study more extensively the Partial Rapture Proof you can do so here,

 

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Partial_rapture.htm

 

 

I have a better idea, since it's "your" argument....Why don't "you" get their Scripture Support for the Baseless Conjectures that were thrown about here by "you".

 

Or do you think it's reasonable for everyone to imagine things and then demand people who do not believe in your imaginings to demonstrate how your imaginings are false, Before, you give evidence for your imaginings?


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I have a good idea. Read the passage carefully and think for yourself. So read the reasons why both the taken and the left are saved in Matt. 24.40-42 or why death is not an escaping the hour of trial in Rev. 3.10 (only rapture is) or why not all Christians are watchful in Luke 21.36 to be kept from all these things that shall come to pass in the Tribulation.


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Closed.  This is a discussion forum where everyone is to supple biblical proof to support their stance.  Worthy is not a place where people come to "voice their opinion" only.

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