Genesis 1 Vs Big Bang/String/Inflation and Darwinism

[enoob57]

One thing for sure we all will be enlightened to exactness when in His Presence

[other one]

I think you will find what you are speaking about here.....  This is an overview of his thoughts.

 

 

the Rabbi's name is Nachmanides  as I remember he was seriously into the Kabbalah.

 

I have ordered the book this is speaking of.   It will take me two months to get to reading it.

it appears that I left off the web site I was speaking about...

 

http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48951136.html

[SavedOnebyGrace]

 

I think you will find what you are speaking about here.....  This is an overview of his thoughts.

 

 

the Rabbi's name is Nachmanides  as I remember he was seriously into the Kabbalah.

 

I have ordered the book this is speaking of.   It will take me two months to get to reading it.

it appears that I left off the web site I was speaking about...

 

http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48951136.html

 

Excellent link.  Thank you.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Maybe we can agree on one thing, neither one of us believes in evolution.  We both believe in a six day of creation, one day of rest.  Some of Jesus' comments should be enough to disprove the Day-Age interpretation of creation.

One thing I should have stated, there are many scientists who believe in the Day-Age concept of creation, Hugh Ross being just one of many.  I think, like the 6000 year existence of earth believers, their salvation should not be questioned.  I don't discount their belief that this is a literal interpretation of scripture.  I just disagree.

[Enoch2021]

 

Maybe we can agree on one thing, neither one of us believes in evolution.  We both believe in a six day of creation, one day of rest.  Some of Jesus' comments should be enough to disprove the Day-Age interpretation of creation.

One thing I should have stated, there are many scientists who believe in the Day-Age concept of creation, Hugh Ross being just one of many.  I think, like the 6000 year existence of earth believers, their salvation should not be questioned.  I don't discount their belief that this is a literal interpretation of scripture.  I just disagree.

 

 

 

Hugh Ross also believes in Moon Fossils; However, each postulate needs to be evaluated based upon it's own tenets and merit.

 

Nothing wrong with disagreement, but "Agree/Disagree" is rooted and associated with Subjective Criterion not with the Scientific Method.  Hypotheses are either Validated/Invalidated via Hypothesis Testing...there are no "Opinions" allowed, it's quite the Non-Sequitur (Fallacy).

 

Also, the question of age (Universe, Earth) is outside the Framework of the Scientific Method; Ergo...their pronouncements from the rooftops stating the Age(s) as absolute FACT is a tear jerkin belly laugher; it Screams Agenda ---- I wonder why       

 

 

At first blush, it appears this discussion (Long Ages: Day-Age/Gap Theory) has nothing to do with Salvation....However; it's Bedrock Foundation right @ it's Core.  How so?  Well....

 

If "your" Doctrine is that there was: Death, Disease, Suffering, THORNS before Adam's Fall, sorta this motif....

 

 

 

.....then you take to the Woodshed "IN TOTO" The Salvation Doctrine (Kinsmen Redeemer and "The Last Adam"), by direct proxy.

 

 

See the problem? 

[Guest Teditis]

A gap theory doesn't account for sin and death like the 7 literal day reading does.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

A gap theory doesn't account for sin and death like the 7 literal day reading does.

That's not true. 

[SavedOnebyGrace]

 

 

Maybe we can agree on one thing, neither one of us believes in evolution.  We both believe in a six day of creation, one day of rest.  Some of Jesus' comments should be enough to disprove the Day-Age interpretation of creation.

One thing I should have stated, there are many scientists who believe in the Day-Age concept of creation, Hugh Ross being just one of many.  I think, like the 6000 year existence of earth believers, their salvation should not be questioned.  I don't discount their belief that this is a literal interpretation of scripture.  I just disagree.

 

 

 

Hugh Ross also believes in Moon Fossils; However, each postulate needs to be evaluated based upon it's own tenets and merit.

 

Nothing wrong with disagreement, but "Agree/Disagree" is rooted and associated with Subjective Criterion not with the Scientific Method.  Hypotheses are either Validated/Invalidated via Hypothesis Testing...there are no "Opinions" allowed, it's quite the Non-Sequitur (Fallacy).

 

Also, the question of age (Universe, Earth) is outside the Framework of the Scientific Method; Ergo...their pronouncements from the rooftops stating the Age(s) as absolute FACT is a tear jerkin belly laugher; it Screams Agenda ---- I wonder why       

 

 

At first blush, it appears this discussion (Long Ages: Day-Age/Gap Theory) has nothing to do with Salvation....However; it's Bedrock Foundation right @ it's Core.  How so?  Well....

 

If "your" Doctrine is that there was: Death, Disease, Suffering, THORNS before Adam's Fall, sorta this motif....

 

 

 

.....then you take to the Woodshed "IN TOTO" The Salvation Doctrine (Kinsmen Redeemer and "The Last Adam"), by direct proxy.

 

 

See the problem? 

 

I see the problem is a lack of understanding of the Gap Theory.  Maybe it's just too complex for you to understand.

[Guest Teditis]

 

A gap theory doesn't account for sin and death like the 7 literal day reading does.

That's not true. 

 

 

So why was there sin and death in the "previous" world?

[Riverwalker]

A gap theory doesn't account for sin and death like the 7 literal day reading does.

Spot on!

 

Once leave the defined path laid on in scripture we enter the swap of our own reasoning, a dark dangerous murky place with little stability