Genesis 1 Vs Big Bang/String/Inflation and Darwinism

[Guest Teditis]

Chaos and darkness are not essentially evil in nature... I have no idea where they get the term "waste" from...

it seems added to make this nonsensical claim.

 

On Day One God created the cosmos yet to be formed as He intended it to be... it's perfectly clear in the texts.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Scofield's Commentary - Chapter 1

 

1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

without form and void

 

Jeremiah 4:23-27

;

Isaiah 24:1

;

45:18

clearly indicate that the earth had undergone a cataclysmic change as the result of divine judgment. The face of the earth bears everywhere the marks of such a catastrophe. There are not wanting imitations which connect it with a previous testing and fall of angels.

 

See

Ezekiel 28:12-15

;

Isaiah 14:9-14

which certainly go beyond the kings of Tyre and Babylon.

 

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

 

Let there be light

 

Neither here nor in verses 14-18 is an original creative act implied. A different word is used. The sense is, made to appear; made visible. The sun and moon were created "in the beginning." The "light" of course came from the sun, but the vapour diffused the light. Later the sun appeared in an unclouded sky.

 

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

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[Guest shiloh357]

Jeremiah 4: 23-27 is talking about the destruction of Judah and Jerusalem.  He is using the imagery of Gen. 1:2 to paint a picture of the scope of the devastation caused by the Babylonians.  He is not commenting on the creation account.   You need to learn how the Bible uses metaphors and imagery.

[Guest Teditis]

Your interpretation of those verses in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isiah are horribly biased...

they tell nothing of a created version of a cosmos before God's creation work in Genesis.

 

The "lights" issue is more complex and I admit that I don't fully understand it all... but, it says

that He set lights in the expanse to be signs and seasons, days and years. Then it states that

He had created the greater and lesser lights (Sun & Moon) to rule over the day and the night times...

but it doesn't necessarily say that He created them on that day... they may have already been there

from Day one.

 

You're twisting Scripture to suit your wants...

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Talk to Dr. Scofield, it's from his notes on the KJV.

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[Guest Teditis]

Nothing in Post# 142 indicates that Scofield was talking about some Gap-Theory

nor any type of creation that was in place prior to Gen.1:1.

Neither does any Scripture outside of Genesis indicate some "second" creative process.

 

Again, you're reading things into texts that are not there. You taking text out of context in

order to fulfill some pretext of your own imagination... both Scofield's (what you've quoted

anyway) as well as the Bible. I happen to own a Scofield Reference Bible from 1917, and

in none of his writings does he suggest any creative acts outside what is traditionally held.

 

But let's just agree to disagree from this point on... because you're not doing a very good

job at providing convincing evidence from any source, and just seem to be on a soapbox.

[Guest shiloh357]

It's interesting that the Gap Theory has to be defended from the KJV.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

I chose the KJV because that is the version I read when I was saved.  Since that time, I read many versions (conservatively translated) which includes the follow: NKJV, NIV, NASB, ASV, HCSB, ESV, AMP, YLT, Williams NT, and several others.  I have these in book form.  Electronic versions include most English versions from e-Sword and The Word; about four times more versions.  I also read and write Latin, but I'm a bit out of practice.