The_Patriot21 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,714 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What makes it credible? Excuse me if I don't take your say so. I've never even heard of it. Perhaps other sources with the same information? Did you even look at the site and go through it? It is a military industrial aircraft, weaponry, and space technology site... sheesh, OF COURSE it's EXTREMELY credible... its what our US gov, terrorists and etc. might look at to stay on top of weaponry advances and news and etc. So, you can't give me independent confirmation or even tell me how they got their results. Not a strong case for credibility. I can tell by the layout of the site that its not something just thrown together out of the blue it appears well put together with a lot of research put into it-but at the same time 250 million dead in 11 years? Short of war or genocide I'd say its extremely unlikely. And without the data they used or independent verification I can't take this site at its word, no matter how well written. It doesn't appear credible to me. Being a space and weapons technology site doesn't necessarily mean credible and if that's all you got then you have very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 read post 17, they give the reasoning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,714 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Aaah I didn't see 17 at the time I posted that. If they're claiming migration will kill 250 million people lol that's almost laughable. Short of a major pandemic and a collapse of our medical system, or a war I don't see this as even being remotely believable. And I find no evidence other then their word that they are used by the CIA or any government and no independent verification and even post 17 is vague about how they obtained it. A lot of fancy words calling the government a liar not much evidence. The Soviet Union certainly didn't see this kinda death toll when it collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 What I got out of it was when the economy crashes a lot of the immigrants will just simply go home.... some people will move with companies going out of the country......  then there is the possibility of us pushing Russia or ISIL into war here.......  we do have a lot of Muslims here to create a lot of havoc when the Muslim Brotherhood turns them loose...  If we don't do something, when the Baby boomers die off and there isn't a lot of folks to prey on, most of the illegals and people on welfare will migrate somewhere else or starve. When we run out of money for welfare people will either have to to too mexico or go hungry or die trying to steal from someone with food.  We are actually poised for any number of disasters to come about....  I'm not very familiar with this place at all, so I don't have any idea if they know what they are talking about.....  but I just can't write it off either largely because it's easy to see that we are not very stable right now. Our country is so reliable on technology and transportation to exist,that if things do go wrong, it will affect us more than most other countries....  not very many of us are capable of feeding ourselves for more than a month or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,714 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 16, 2014 250 million people leaving is a lot different then them dying. Big difference there. Tells me the title is just a scare tactic to get people to look at them. Real data shouldn't need to employ such tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 250 million people leaving is a lot different then them dying. Big difference there. Tells me the title is just a scare tactic to get people to look at them. Real data shouldn't need to employ such tactics Well, I guess you'd have to talk to Tsun Tsu about that for the web site doesn't say anything about them all dieing that I saw. I guess in this case we can shoot the messenger and not the message this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted November 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2014 http://www.deagel.com.ipaddress.com/   IPAddress.com The Best IP Address Tools    My IP    IP Lookup    Whois    IP Tools    Email Tools    Speed Test    Articles My IP Address 108.222.86.244 is located in United States www.Deagel.com - Deagel Details When pulling the information for www.Deagel.com, we found that the organization tied to this IP is Fluid Hosting LLC. A more detailed IP address report for www.Deagel.com is below. At the time you pulled this report, the IP of www.Deagel.com is 204.14.91.26 and is located in the time zone of America/New_York. The context of www.Deagel.com is "Deagel" and could reflect the theme of the content available on the resource. More IP details of www.Deagel.com are shown below along with a map location. www.Deagel.com | Deagel IP Lookup (IP: 204.14.91.26) Hostname: www.deagel.com IP Address: 204.14.91.26 Host of this IP: win6.myhsphere.cc Organization: Fluid Hosting LLC ISP: Fluid Hosting LLC City: Norristown Country: United States State: Pennsylvania Postal Code: 19403 Timezone: America/New_York Local Time: 16.11.2014 08:49:26 20mi 50km Hostname: www.deagel.com Country: United States City: Norristown Latitude: 40.1545 Longitude: -75.3809 Reverse IP Lookup Result for www.Deagel.com | Deagel We found 1 hostname for IP Address 204.14.91.26 [ Lookup this IP ] 1 www.deagel.com [ Site Information ]   Whois Lookup Result for Deagel.com | Deagel Registrar TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server whois.tucows.com Referral URL http://domainhelp.opensrs.net Status ok Contact Email [email address hidden] Creation Date 08/30/2003 Updated Date 08/18/2013 Expiration Date 08/30/2016 Registrant Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Administrative Contact Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Technical Contact Fluid Hosting LLC Fluid Hosting LLC #255 2820 Audubon Village Dr. Audubon, PA 19403-2262 UN Telephone: 18606566191 Fax: 18606566191 Email: [email address hidden] Nameservers NS1.FLUIDHOSTING.COM NS2.FLUIDHOSTING.COM Sites related to Deagel.com | Deagel 1 globalsecurity.org Globalsecurity.org - Innovative Approaches To Emerging Security Challenges [site Information] Organic keywords for Deagel.com 1 crj 700 engine lease cost 2 patriot missile system ioc 3 pantsir s1 4 prices 5 a2c2s uh-60 6 76mm draco turret 7 when was patriot missile system ioc 8 deagel 9 48n6e2 10 pak da    And this means what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2014  http://www.deagel.com.ipaddress.com/   IPAddress.com The Best IP Address Tools    My IP    IP Lookup    Whois    IP Tools    Email Tools    Speed Test    Articles My IP Address 108.222.86.244 is located in United States www.Deagel.com - Deagel Details When pulling the information for www.Deagel.com, we found that the organization tied to this IP is Fluid Hosting LLC. A more detailed IP address report for www.Deagel.com is below. At the time you pulled this report, the IP of www.Deagel.com is 204.14.91.26 and is located in the time zone of America/New_York. The context of www.Deagel.com is "Deagel" and could reflect the theme of the content available on the resource. More IP details of www.Deagel.com are shown below along with a map location. www.Deagel.com | Deagel IP Lookup (IP: 204.14.91.26) Hostname: www.deagel.com IP Address: 204.14.91.26 Host of this IP: win6.myhsphere.cc Organization: Fluid Hosting LLC ISP: Fluid Hosting LLC City: Norristown Country: United States State: Pennsylvania Postal Code: 19403 Timezone: America/New_York Local Time: 16.11.2014 08:49:26 20mi 50km Hostname: www.deagel.com Country: United States City: Norristown Latitude: 40.1545 Longitude: -75.3809 Reverse IP Lookup Result for www.Deagel.com | Deagel We found 1 hostname for IP Address 204.14.91.26 [ Lookup this IP ] 1 www.deagel.com [ Site Information ]   Whois Lookup Result for Deagel.com | Deagel Registrar TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server whois.tucows.com Referral URL http://domainhelp.opensrs.net Status ok Contact Email [email address hidden] Creation Date 08/30/2003 Updated Date 08/18/2013 Expiration Date 08/30/2016 Registrant Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Administrative Contact Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Technical Contact Fluid Hosting LLC Fluid Hosting LLC #255 2820 Audubon Village Dr. Audubon, PA 19403-2262 UN Telephone: 18606566191 Fax: 18606566191 Email: [email address hidden] Nameservers NS1.FLUIDHOSTING.COM NS2.FLUIDHOSTING.COM Sites related to Deagel.com | Deagel 1 globalsecurity.org Globalsecurity.org - Innovative Approaches To Emerging Security Challenges [site Information] Organic keywords for Deagel.com 1 crj 700 engine lease cost 2 patriot missile system ioc 3 pantsir s1 4 prices 5 a2c2s uh-60 6 76mm draco turret 7 when was patriot missile system ioc 8 deagel 9 48n6e2 10 pak da    And this means what?  who has the URL registered and some of the other places it's affiliated with and some generic search terms that they want people to use to find them.  It's a really strange place.  I have conspiracy friends who are looking into the place....   They do seem to pass on and/or sell a lot of information.  I probably should mention that I am registered there... It was mentioned in the back of a Tom Clancy book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,714 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I actually find tom Clancy to be far more credible the 99% of the conspiricists out there. With that said I get the impression this is a legitimate organization-who deal with statistics and the like. I do, however don't think their right. Looks like a lot of just pure speculation, probably based from a biased interpretation of the evidence at hand. So legit organization? Perhaps. Credible? To be decided. About the only real outside evidence that this site MIGHT be credible is the tabloids and conspiricists HAVEN'T jumped all over this, seems like something they'd be all over, while ignoring anything that actually has evidence to back it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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