Guest Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Repentance Could Be As Simple (And As Hard) As Turn And Look Up And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. Numbers 21:6-9 And The LORD Jesus Will Do And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:13-15 The Rest Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. Isaiah 6:5-8 ~ Merry Christmas Beloved~! Love, Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted December 25, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Repentance is a changing in understanding that leads one to conformity. Just as Alan said earlier in the thread, a person can gain understanding of the bad they do and turn toward that which is good without turning toward God. In that case the repentance is rooted in self-consciousness rather than God-consciousness. Repentance does not guarentee perfect behavior toward the ideal due to weakness that remains in the individual. The truly repentant one feels sorrow in their failures that drives them to a pure desire to be conformed to the image of the true. The journey to Christlikeness is the beauty of being a Christian. Learning that the power to be like him comes from him is a stumbling block the self-righteous trip over. Repentance brings forth fruit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rag4aCrown Posted December 27, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2014 many honor Him with their lips, but their heart is far from Him. John the Baptist said what it takes to repent. amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted December 28, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 118 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 28, 2014 The better questions are why do we sin and what does it mean to love and know Christ? We sin because we do not believe, Hebrews 3:12-19, and will not enter the kingdom. To love Christ is to keep His commandments, John 14:15-24. To know God is to keep His commandments, 1 John 2:3-6. If we claim to know Him but do not keep His commandments, we are liars and the truth (the Spirit of Truth) is not in us. True repentance is a total change of life that is fully powered and guided by the Holy Spirit (Spirit of Grace). If we are truly repentant and lead by the HS we will not obey the lust of the flesh, Galatians 5:16. We must remember that John's initial address in 1 John was to those who did not have fellowship with them or God and Christ, 1 John 1:1-4. Then he goes into chapter 2 saying he is writing the things so that we may not sin. Why would he want to teach us these things if it is impossible to not sin? Finally if we are continually repenting then we are continually demonstrating we don'the love Christ which is contrary to the life we are called to live. Full reliance on the promises of God and guidance of the HS to walk as Chrisr walked will bring the peace that passes all understanding. I will end with these last questions. How can one live with peace and joy if they are continually failing/stumbling/sinning? Continually sinning against God is no different than a husband who continually commits adultery. Every sin is the same, lying and murder are equal in God's eyes. Committing sin is grieving the HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Want To Be Happy For The Rest Of Your Life? Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. John 15:3 Stay Close Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. John 15:4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2014 Jesus began His ministry by the call to repentance, saying "Repent, for the kingdom of God is nigh." The reason to repent is given as - because God's kingdom is not far away as sinners think, but near to them. It has always has been near to humanity, ever since God walked in the garden calling for the pair clad in fig leaves. But as sinners we are quick to admit that heaven is closed to us, our unbelief has closed the mind. But we are not quick to confess that heaven is open for us because of Christ. Jesus is saying the door is open. If David had kept the goodness of God in mind, he would not have been tempted to think that he was missing out on something, and sinned to feed the empty covetous self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildstar Posted December 31, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 218 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2014 You don't need to feel guilty when you believe in Jesus work. You need to feel thankful! I think one should feel guilty - because we are. If we don't believe we are worthless, wretched sinners - with nothing to offer - we won't feel the need for a savior. It's like Ray Comfort once said: People who don't believe they are sick, will never seek a doctor. Difference in beliefs at that point then. I believe we become sinless once we believe in the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 31, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,166 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,444 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 31, 2014 You don't need to feel guilty when you believe in Jesus work. You need to feel thankful! I think one should feel guilty - because we are. If we don't believe we are worthless, wretched sinners - with nothing to offer - we won't feel the need for a savior. It's like Ray Comfort once said: People who don't believe they are sick, will never seek a doctor. Difference in beliefs at that point then. I believe we become sinless once we believe in the Lord. 1 John 1:7-10 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. KJV Then how do you deal with this statement in John's writings? Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john14:6 Posted January 10, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 180 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2015 Just saw this and before I read any of the responses I will describe my understanding of repentance based on my experience of becoming a true believer in Jesus. I could write a lengthy article about my struggle with doubts, fears, and the misery associated with a lack of understanding the truth about words like faith, repentance, and believing. To keep my answer short & simple I'll just say that the Holy Spirit changed my mind about God's Way of saving me as I read in the Gospel of John chapters 1-6. He showed me, convinced me, that I could do nothing but cast my hopeless helpless self at the foot of the cross and let Jesus give me the power to turn from my self and from my sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildstar Posted January 10, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 218 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2015 You don't need to feel guilty when you believe in Jesus work. You need to feel thankful! I think one should feel guilty - because we are. If we don't believe we are worthless, wretched sinners - with nothing to offer - we won't feel the need for a savior. It's like Ray Comfort once said: People who don't believe they are sick, will never seek a doctor. Difference in beliefs at that point then. I believe we become sinless once we believe in the Lord. 1 John 1:7-10 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. KJV Then how do you deal with this statement in John's writings? Love, Steven by following what it says 'confessing your sins and be cleansed from all unrigteousness' in the same book it defines what unrighteousness, if you will. 1 john 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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