The Rapture

[uvn477]

I myself am conflicted with this topic. For those of you who do not know, the rapture is a period when Jesus will come for his church and leave the unbelievers behind to face the Tribulation period. The Left Behind books tell of this period and in my opinion are amazing books. Anyway, many scholars think the rapture is just an invention of the mind. They say the end will come as a shock to everyone and no one will expect it. I myself want to believe it myself however I myself cannot understand enough to come to a conclusion. Does anyone have any opinions about this?

[Trinity]

Warning you about to be eaten alive...

By who? By the Post tribers, Mid tribers and pre warth...

[Trinity]

but i agree with you 110%

[other one]

there have been many threads in the past on this, and Trinity is right about the eaten alive part. It is one of the discussions that usually end up in a bit of turmoil.

I acutally changed my mind about the pre trib rapture reading through all the threads. You would most likely be better off doing a search on it and reading through several threads than living through the experience of it happening again. but maybe it's started and we'll just go through it all again.

Dad Earnie, it's your time..... you explain it much better than I....

[cag7800]

there have been many threads in the past on this, and Trinity is right about the eaten alive part.  It is one of the discussions that usually end up in a bit of turmoil.

I acutally changed my mind about the pre trib rapture reading through all the threads.  You would most likely be better off doing a search on it and reading through several threads than living through the experience of it happening again.  but maybe it's started and we'll just go through it all again.

Dad Earnie, it's your time.....  you explain it much better than I....

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i believe that you should study it yourself ! some off this post are not bibical and they will steer you in the wrong way..God's word never lies so searcg HIS words and the Holy Spirit will quide you in all truths.

[gypc]

Seek out Dad Earnie if you dare!!!

[Guest idied2]

I myself am conflicted with this topic. For those of you who do not know, the rapture is a period when Jesus will come for his church and leave the unbelievers behind to face the Tribulation period. The Left Behind books tell of this period and in my opinion are amazing books. Anyway, many scholars think the rapture is just an invention of the mind. They say the end will come as a shock to everyone and no one will expect it. I myself want to believe it myself however I myself cannot understand enough to come to a conclusion. Does anyone have any opinions about this?

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Ask and it shall be given.

CHRIST told us how HE would return to earth.

Mt 24:27

For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Christ will return to earth in a flash of lightning. And everyone will see HIM. Paul and John suport this here.

1Co 15:52

in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Re 1:7

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen

The dead will be raised from death. Not from being alive walking around in heaven.

They who pierced HIM are a type. A evil generation. Every one on earth that are still alive after the great tribulation will be in one area on earth to see HIM come.

So the LORD descends alone from heaven In a flash of LIghtning in a moment. The dead are raised from death and those who are his elect firstfruits who are alive at HIS coming all in that flash of lightning go up to meet HIM in the air on earth and are changed from coruptible to incoruptible bodies.

1 Thessalonians 4

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

This is all after the great tribulation. HERE is why.

Matthew 24

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.

23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it.

24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25 See, I have told you beforehand.

26 Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it.

27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

They can not try to deceive the elect if the elect are not there. And then CHRIST comes.

In CHRIST JESUS

[Arthur Durnan]

Why insist on making a very straightforward biblical truth a heinous mess of confusion. Paul answers our search with his clear-cut statements in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Altho the word "rapture" is not in the Bible, the truth of it surely is. The greek word is "harpazo", the sudden snatching-away of God's worldwide twice-born (John 3:1-7) people.

Will you be ready when Jesus comes? (John 14:1-6).

Thank You, Jesus, for this THRILLING & STRAIGHTFORWARD promise!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[Guest idied2]

Why insist on making a very straightforward biblical truth a heinous mess of confusion. Paul answers our search with his clear-cut statements in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Altho the word "rapture" is not in the Bible, the truth of it surely is. The greek word is "harpazo", the sudden snatching-away of God's worldwide twice-born (John 3:1-7) people.

Will you be ready when Jesus comes? (John 14:1-6).

Thank You, Jesus, for this THRILLING & STRAIGHTFORWARD promise!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

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So what does that mean? Leave me alone and let me die in margret mcdonalds harlotry? Did you even read the post? or were you to angered by the truth to try and understand it?

In CHRIST JESUS

[Dad Ernie]

I myself am conflicted with this topic. For those of you who do not know, the rapture is a period when Jesus will come for his church and leave the unbelievers behind to face the Tribulation period. The Left Behind books tell of this period and in my opinion are amazing books. Anyway, many scholars think the rapture is just an invention of the mind. They say the end will come as a shock to everyone and no one will expect it. I myself want to believe it myself however I myself cannot understand enough to come to a conclusion. Does anyone have any opinions about this?

Greetings UVN477,

My ears were burning, so I had to peek in. This thread actually belongs in the Eschatology Forum, and I hope one of the mods changes its location.

The Left Behind series, although entertaining, is introduced as "fiction", but like you many have been deceived into believing it actually reflects what the scriptures say. WRONG! The books pervert the Lord's coming, but you are not going to believe this until you study the scriptures for yourself. Some have already posted a few of the scriptures which relay the truth.

This is an area of study well worth your endeavors, but like another has said, DON'T LISTEN TO MAN, instead READ YOUR BIBLE. Then when you have a question, pose it first to God and then come seeking for a "multitude of counselors". If you can't do this, then it must not be all that important to you, but that is the way you should go.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie