Shy Christian Posted May 22, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 198 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 57 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/03/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 22, 2015 Now that Josh's past molestation of his sisters has come to light do you think the Duggars are a good Christian family are a bunch of hypocrites? He claims to acknowledge his wrongdoing, but I've always heard "once a child molester, always a child molester". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted May 22, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted May 22, 2015 Now that Josh's past molestation of his sisters has come to light do you think the Duggars are a good Christian family are a bunch of hypocrites? He claims to acknowledge his wrongdoing, but I've always heard "once a child molester, always a child molester". First of all I don't know who the Duggars are.. and second if the Lord forgives him who are we to not to forgive? People can be sorry for what the did..what if that man was hanging on the cross beside Jesus and was sorry for his sin? Would Jesus forgive them and would he go to Paradise that same day ? This does not mean that I like to see any children ever around him again or young people up to let say 18 years old. 1` John 1:9 And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Christian Posted May 22, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 198 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 57 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/03/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/tlc-yanks--19-kids-and-counting--after-josh-duggar-molestation-confession-184115564.html TV family famous for having 19 kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 First of all, none of us are in a position to forgive Josh Duggar. The ONLY people who can forgive him are the Lord and the victims. He did not wrong me and so I don't need to forgive him. This issue is between the Duggars, the Lord and the victims. This happened when Josh who is now 27, was a teenager. It was not family secret. They have already dealt with this openly. The media doesn't the family's stance against gay marriage and so they dredged this up from 10-12 years ago to smear them. No, this does not make them hypocrites. Hypocrites are people who condemn others for the same sins they justify in themselves. The Duggars are not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 i think the whole thing is a hypocritical smoke screen from the left. josh is human. he was a teenager in puberty who inappropriately touched one or more sisters. yes, it was wrong. no, that does not make his family a bunch of hypocrites. you ask about the old saying 'once a child molestor, always a child molester.'. that's a ridiculous allegation because HE WAS A CHILD himself. good grief, this is an issue that happens every day in millions of families when an older sibling is struggling with sexual curiosity. it doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make the person a child molester either. and while that does not excuse it, you have to ask some questions here... why is it that NOW, a dozen years after the fact when he is CEO of the family research council, is someone just now digging up this dirt and trying to smear the family name? let me tell you what the reason is not about. it's not about justice. whoever dug up this skeleton and made it public knowledge could care less about justice, could care less about the welfare of his siblings, his children, or anyone else. it's about one thing. destroying the name of 'christianity' in america. this was a strategic attack. it's really sad that even christians are asking "should we forgive" and wondering if he is a threat to society. i say all that, and i've never even been a fan of the dugger family. but i can't stand what is being done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted May 22, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted May 22, 2015 amen lady. Whats even sadder is seeing supposed christians taking up the attack against the duggar family. Not our place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted May 23, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted May 23, 2015 People are too quick to judge Thank you for explaining the store ..I never heard of the Duggars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman150 Posted May 23, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 128 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/14/1958 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I'm not going to get any up votes for posting this. But what has happened here has given the devil canon fodder through neglect. There are curious issues with this whole thing, including the Gothard tie, and the fact that the cop that gave Josh a stern "talking to" is now serving 56 years for possession of child pornography. If my facts are wrong, I *welcome* correction. But here's what a Breitbart poster offered, regarding Josh's rise to the FRC. Full disclosure: I had never heard of this family before today. But a reality show about a Christian family famous for only it's size? Somebody benefits, and of course it is the family. Here's the post: JDV • 6 hours ago 1 Titus 5-8: “This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach.” Why must those in positions of authority be above reproach? The condemnation in Romans 2:22-24 of the professed law keepers and people of God points to the reason: “You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the law dishonor God by breaking the law. For, as it is written, ‘The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.’” The “he was young” stance that some have offered when seeking to support those involved should stay in the realm of legal defense rather than be offered as an excuse. This is not a case of excluding people with a sinful past from ever having a place at the table to discuss societal matters. The first issue here is someone in a position of authority lobbying on behalf of a group advocating legislation supporting societal standards of faith and morals, as well as making stands on issues of sexual morality. Given that, the Christian roots and Judeo-Christian worldview of the organization as well as of the person in question and his family (who themselves bear the standard of a Christian household from a visible national platform), the issue shifts to exercising proper care, stewardship, and accountability. Were the person in a position of authority an alcoholic, which some have tried to parallel with this guy’s issue and actions, it would still be improper for such a person to cover up that fact, whether they were living in sobriety now or still engaging in alcohol abuse. The second issue is the cover up, because it should be the organization’s discretion whether to authorize one of the faces of their efforts regarding sexual morality to have a history with multiple molestations. The inconvenience of this reality should have been subordinate to the duties outlined in Scripture that appear to have gone unheeded by this guy as well as his parents. Given their public prominence and the incumbent responsibilities of faith (and the enhanced call for leadership to be above reproach), it should have been recognized that the issue transcended personal and private repentance into the realm of stewardship and leadership (on matters of public moral standards, no less) with its enhanced call to be above reproach. One would think that name recognition didn’t hurt this guy’s getting his position within this highly visible advocacy organization, so both he and his parents should have known that said recognition would work two ways, in this case to the detriment of the cause and the faith if the documented reality of what this guy had done became public. Consequently, whatever positive association they hoped to ascribe to a lifestyle with Christian values is now in jeopardy for many, especially as it empowers the "I told you so's" who seek to equate Christians with hypocrisy. The time is now for organizations in the public square advocating legislation based on Judeo-Christian values to prioritize the admonition from Titus 1 to the forefront. Offering the “we’re all sinners” reply when instances such as this one surfaces serves no one, and is unacceptable given the consequences (Romans 2). Sure, accountability is harder than the de facto mode of man, as many can’t be bothered with employing an ounce of prevention in the first place, let alone stepping on toes and egos in order to uphold standards. But if you appear no different from the world whose fallen state you bemoan (or worse, appear hypocritical), how will you do anything but harm the declared cause? It’s one thing to advocate on behalf of an organization for moral standards to which you aspire while admitting and disclosing that you haven’t always met them perfectly. It’s quite another to do that from a position of leadership yet have been involved with activity that every corner of society denounces (especially something that involved violating the rights of others) but choose not to disclose that and thus prevent your organization or anyone else from properly determining your fitness for the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted May 23, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 23, 2015 Now that Josh's past molestation of his sisters has come to light do you think the Duggars are a good Christian family are a bunch of hypocrites? He claims to acknowledge his wrongdoing, but I've always heard "once a child molester, always a child molester". We all have something. Or someone in our family who has something or has done something. If they were to make a show about anybody's family something bad someone did sometime somewhere would come to light. It was bond to happen when you put yourself out there for the world to see. We all have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew T. Posted May 23, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 481 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 537 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/08/1959 Share Posted May 23, 2015 i think the whole thing is a hypocritical smoke screen from the left. josh is human. he was a teenager in puberty who inappropriately touched one or more sisters. yes, it was wrong. no, that does not make his family a bunch of hypocrites. you ask about the old saying 'once a child molestor, always a child molester.'. that's a ridiculous allegation because HE WAS A CHILD himself. good grief, this is an issue that happens every day in millions of families when an older sibling is struggling with sexual curiosity. it doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make the person a child molester either. and while that does not excuse it, you have to ask some questions here... why is it that NOW, a dozen years after the fact when he is CEO of the family research council, is someone just now digging up this dirt and trying to smear the family name? let me tell you what the reason is not about. it's not about justice. whoever dug up this skeleton and made it public knowledge could care less about justice, could care less about the welfare of his siblings, his children, or anyone else. it's about one thing. destroying the name of 'christianity' in america. this was a strategic attack. it's really sad that even christians are asking "should we forgive" and wondering if he is a threat to society. i say all that, and i've never even been a fan of the dugger family. but i can't stand what is being done to them. Hear here! And? Period, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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