ayin jade Posted July 17, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,800 Content Per Day: 6.17 Reputation: 11,247 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2015 This was discussed in chat a few days ago and I did a lot of googling on this. This is not on any credible news source except one, and that one does not say pp is doing this. Only that it was discussed as a hypothetical. The unedited version of this video is on youtube and it supposedly shows that it was only briefly mentioned as a hypothetical thing not as something they are doing. Im rather appalled that the title of this piece indicates it is happening when the video itself says no such thing. Well that's a strange development. Is this edited to say what they want it to say....or what?? Just to be clear, I dont like planned parenthood. I think it is horrid and shouldnt exist. But the video captures a discussion that any of us might have, about things that are not happening but could happen. And its just comments instead of a detailed discussion of what they are doing. The video is out there on youtube for anyone who wants to see it. Make sure you view the unedited one. It is something like an hour long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 So every media outlet got it wrong? Not one of them heard the entire conversation? Not one media outlet got their facts right and did their due diligence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.07 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 So every media outlet got it wrong? Not one of them heard the entire conversation? Not one media outlet got their facts right and did their due diligence? I watched it again on The Blaze this morning. She actually does talk about this stuff very nonchalantly and kind of skirts around partial birth abortions knowing that they are illegal. And there IS an online form where organizations can preorder specific body parts. It's not as cut and dried as the edited version but PP is worried about it so I know the truth is in there. It will be interesting to see what Congress drags out of this. I want to be logical and analytical here but I still just want to grab hold of that woman. I need to go work on my attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Planned Parenthood should not be receiving federal funding and frankly, should not be allowed to operate anywhere in the United States. It is nothing but a murder mill and was started by the racist Margaret Sanger as a way of exterminating African Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.67 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 This was discussed in chat a few days ago and I did a lot of googling on this. This is not on any credible news source except one, and that one does not say pp is doing this. Only that it was discussed as a hypothetical. The unedited version of this video is on youtube and it supposedly shows that it was only briefly mentioned as a hypothetical thing not as something they are doing. Im rather appalled that the title of this piece indicates it is happening when the video itself says no such thing. It is absolutely real and true. The US Congress has gotten involved to have hearings regarding the information in the video. This is no hoax,. Letters went out yesterday. They are official. http://energycommerce.house.gov/letter/letter-planned-parenthood-federation-america-regarding-video http://energycommerce.house.gov/subcommittees/health Press releases: http://energycommerce.house.gov/press-release/committee-leaders-seek-briefing-doctor-abhorrent-planned-parenthood-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.67 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 I would venture to bet that hardly anyone here knows the history of planned parenthood or its actual, founding purpose, or the relationship of its founder to eugenics and Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.16 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I would venture to bet that hardly anyone here knows the history of planned parenthood or its actual, founding purpose, or the relationship of its founder to eugenics and Hitler. Beloved Most Everybody Here Including The Followers Of Charles Darwin, One Of Those Modern Day Fathers Of Racism And Eugenics Then the man--Adam--named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all who live. Genesis 3:20 (NLT) In his view, the “civilized races” would eventually replace the “savage races throughout the world.” Darwin’s earlier and most famous book was entitled: The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. In such influential and momentous writings Darwin applied his evolutionary idea of natural selection not only to animal development but also to the development of human “races.” He saw natural selection at work in the killing of indigenous peoples of Australia by the British, wrote here of blacks (some of the “savage races”) being a category close to gorillas, and spoke against social programs for the poor and “weak” because such programs permitted the least desirable people to survive. By the late 1800s a racist perspective called “social Darwinism” extensively developed these ideas of Darwin and argued aggressively that certain “inferior races” were less evolved, less human, and more apelike than the “superior races.” Prominent social scientists like Herbert Spencer and William Graham Sumner argued that social life was a life-and-death struggle in which the best individuals would win out over inferior individuals. Sumner argued that wealthy Americans, almost entirely white at the time, were products of natural selection and as the “superior race” essential to the advance of civilization. Black Americans were seen by many of these openly racist analysts as a “degenerate race” whose alleged “immorality” was a racial trait. http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2013/10/03/charles-darwins-racist-framing/ Know The History Of Planned Parenthood (The Murder Of Black Babies) “Then you took your sons and daughters—the children you had borne to me—and sacrificed them to your gods. Was your prostitution not enough? Must you also slaughter my children by sacrificing them to idols? Ezekiel 16:20-21 The Truth About MARGARET SANGER (This article first appeared in the January 20, 1992 edition of Citizen magazine) How Planned Parenthood Duped America At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood. Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South." Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted. While Planned Parenthood's current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as "Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics" (June 1920), "The Eugenic Conscience" (February 1921), "The purpose of Eugenics" (December 1924), "Birth Control and Positive Eugenics" (July 1925), "Birth Control: The True Eugenics" (August 1928), and many others. These eugenic and racial origins are hardly what most people associate with the modern Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA), which gave its Margaret Sanger award to the late Dr. Martin Luther King in 1966, and whose current president, Faye Wattleton, is black, a former nurse, and attractive. Though once a social pariah group, routinely castigated by religious and government leaders, the PPFA is now an established, high-profile, well-funded organization with ample organizational and ideological support in high places of American society and government. Its statistics are accepted by major media and public health officials as "gospel"; its full-page ads appear in major newspapers; its spokespeople are called upon to give authoritative analyses of what America's family policies should be and to prescribe official answers that congressmen, state legislator and Supreme Court justiices all accept as "social orthodoxy." Blaming Families Sanger's obsession with eugenics can be traced back to her own family. One of 11 children, she wrote in the autobiographical book, My Fight for Birth Control, that "I associated poverty, toil, unemployment, drunkenness, cruelty, quarreling, fighting, debts, jails with large families." Just as important was the impression in her childhood of an inferior family status, exacerbated by the iconoclastic, "free-thinking" views of her father, whose "anti-Catholic attitudes did not make for his popularity" in a predominantly Irish community. The fact that the wealthy families in her hometown of Corning, N.Y., had relatively few children, Sanger took as prima facie evidence of the impoverishing effect of larger families. The personal impact of this belief was heightened 1899, at the age of 48. Sanger was convinced that the "ordeals of motherhood" had caused the death of her mother. The lingering consumption (tuberculosis) that took her mother's life visited Sanger at the birth of her own first child on Nov. 18, 1905. The diagnosis forced her to seek refuge in the Adirondacks to strengthen her for the impending birth. Despite the precautions, the birth of baby Grant was "agonizing," the mere memory of which Sanger described as "mental torture" more than 25 years later. She once described the experience as a factor "to be reckoned with" in her zealous campaign for birth control. From the beginning, Sanger advocacy of sex education reflected her interest in population control and birth prevention among the "unfit." Her first handbook, published for adolescents in 1915 and entitled, What Every Boy and Girl Should Know, featured a jarring afterword: It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stoop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them. To Sanger, the ebbing away of moral and religious codes over sexual conduct was a natural consequence of the worthlessness of such codes in the individual's search for self-fulfillment. "Instead of laying down hard and fast rules of sexual conduct," Sanger wrote in her 1922 book Pivot of Civilization, "sex can be rendered effective and valuable only as it meets and satisfies the interests and demands of the pupil himself." Her attitude is appropriately described as libertinism, but sex knowledge was not the same as individual liberty, as her writings on procreation emphasized. The second edition of Sanger's life story, An Autobiography, appeared in 1938. There Sanger described her first cross-country lecture tour in 1916. Her standard speech asserted seven conditions of life that "mandated" the use of birth control: the third was "when parents, though normal, had subnormal children"; the fourth, "when husband and wife were adolescent"; the fifth, "when the earning capacity of the father was inadequate." No right existed to exercise sex knowledge to advance procreation. Sanger described the fact that "anyone, no matter how ignorant, how diseased mentally or physically, how lacking in all knowledge of children, seemed to consider he or she had the right to become a parent." Religious Bigotry In the 1910's and 1920's, the entire social order–religion, law, politics, medicine, and the media–was arrayed against the idea and practice of birth control. This opposition began in 1873 when an overwhelmingly Protestant Congress passed, and a Protestant president signed into law, a bill that became known as the Comstock Law, named after its main proponent, Anthony Comstock. The U.S. Congress classified obscene writing, along with drugs, and devices and articles that prevented conception or caused abortion, under the same net of criminality and forbade their importation or mailing. Sanger set out to have such legislation abolished or amended. Her initial efforts were directed at the Congress with the opening of a Washington, D.C., office of her American Birth Control League in 1926. Sanger wanted to amend section 211 of the U.S. criminal code to allow the interstate shipment and mailing of contraceptives among physicians, druggists and drug manufacturers. http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,388 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,136 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 I would venture to bet that hardly anyone here knows the history of planned parenthood or its actual, founding purpose, or the relationship of its founder to eugenics and Hitler. I would think that you have not been here long or you might not make such statements... this has been discussed here in detail many times over the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.67 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 I would venture to bet that hardly anyone here knows the history of planned parenthood or its actual, founding purpose, or the relationship of its founder to eugenics and Hitler. I would think that you have not been here long or you might not make such statements... this has been discussed here in detail many times over the past decade. That's very good to know, as most of the time when I broach the subject with christian brothers and sisters, they don't have a clue about what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,388 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,136 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 I would venture to bet that hardly anyone here knows the history of planned parenthood or its actual, founding purpose, or the relationship of its founder to eugenics and Hitler. I would think that you have not been here long or you might not make such statements... this has been discussed here in detail many times over the past decade. That's very good to know, as most of the time when I broach the subject with christian brothers and sisters, they don't have a clue about what I'm talking about. I think you are going to find very informed people here..... I hope you enjoy our company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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