Reasons Christian's (evangelicals) Should Support and Vote for Bernie Sanders

[MorningGlory]

 

So yes, he did actually say it, and not just once but over and over again.

 

 

Okay; point taken.  So who do YOU support as a Presidential candidate? 

I don't support any of them.

That's unusual.  So you have no opinions on the upcoming election? 

[thereselittleflower]

 

So yes, he did actually say it, and not just once but over and over again.

 

 

Okay; point taken.  So who do YOU support as a Presidential candidate? 

I don't support any of them.

That's unusual.  So you have no opinions on the upcoming election? 

As far as who to support?

Not at this moment.

 

 

 

[MorningGlory]

 

So yes, he did actually say it, and not just once but over and over again.

 

 

Okay; point taken.  So who do YOU support as a Presidential candidate? 

I don't support any of them.

That's unusual.  So you have no opinions on the upcoming election? 

As far as who to support?

Not at this moment.

 

 

Well, there's plenty of time.  I'll just be glad when 17 candidates are whittled down to a more manageable number.  I think after this debate coming up the number of candidates is going to drop sharply. 

[Guest Butero]

Bernie Sanders is Jewish . That should be no problem .

Bernie Sanders is a socialist . That's better than being a capitalist .

There is absolutely zero chance I would ever consider voting for Bernie Sanders or any other socialist.  I am 100 percent free market capitalist in my views.  Neither Jesus nor the Bible promotes socialism.  Jesus taught that the church should be charitable and provide alms of their own free will to help the poor.  Socialism is a system that makes the state god, and robs one group of individuals to re-distribute their wealth to others by force of law.  If it was up to me, we would gradually eliminate the welfare state, and shrink the government down to the size it was in the 1920s.  No Christian should support socialism, and I can easily go through any arguments they make to try to show how socialism lines up with scripture and prove them wrong.  I have done it before. 

[Guest Butero]

We've sat up here in Canada and watched as deregulation and right wing economic policies caused bubble after bubble and hamstrung the American economy. If Trump gets elected, the American economy will get put through the meat grinder. Please don't elect him. Canada and America have some of the most bilateral trade in the world, and the instant the American economy implodes, ours will go down with it.

The more I see attacks like this, the more I wonder if I am wrong not to support Donald Trump.  If you don't like him, he must be pretty good.  Still, I think Ted Cruz is a better choice, but seeing the fear and dread among liberals towards Trump makes me wonder. 

[Guest]

Bernie Sanders is Jewish . That should be no problem .

Bernie Sanders is a socialist . That's better than being a capitalist .

There is absolutely zero chance I would ever consider voting for Bernie Sanders or any other socialist.  I am 100 percent free market capitalist in my views.  Neither Jesus nor the Bible promotes socialism.  Jesus taught that the church should be charitable and provide alms of their own free will to help the poor.  Socialism is a system that makes the state god, and robs one group of individuals to re-distribute their wealth to others by force of law.  If it was up to me, we would gradually eliminate the welfare state, and shrink the government down to the size it was in the 1920s.  No Christian should support socialism, and I can easily go through any arguments they make to try to show how socialism lines up with scripture and prove them wrong.  I have done it before. 

I am very interested in reading your rebuttal to socialism versus Christianity.  Please see if my perspectives will be able to align with yours by convincing me.

[Guest shiloh357]

Bernie Sanders is Jewish . That should be no problem .

Bernie Sanders is a socialist . That's better than being a capitalist .

There is absolutely zero chance I would ever consider voting for Bernie Sanders or any other socialist.  I am 100 percent free market capitalist in my views.  Neither Jesus nor the Bible promotes socialism.  Jesus taught that the church should be charitable and provide alms of their own free will to help the poor.  Socialism is a system that makes the state god, and robs one group of individuals to re-distribute their wealth to others by force of law.  If it was up to me, we would gradually eliminate the welfare state, and shrink the government down to the size it was in the 1920s.  No Christian should support socialism, and I can easily go through any arguments they make to try to show how socialism lines up with scripture and prove them wrong.  I have done it before. 

I am very interested in reading your rebuttal to socialism versus Christianity.  Please see if my perspectives will be able to align with yours by convincing me.

We only need to measure your perspectives against the Bible, not our own.  The Bible is the plumline.  The Bible is the standard.   Bernie Sanders' socialist principles don't align with the Bible either.    Prove that your perspectives agree with the Bible.

[The_Patriot21]

If I was to vote for a known communist, I think I would vote for Vladmir Putin over sanders...just saying.

[Guest Butero]

Bernie Sanders is Jewish . That should be no problem .

Bernie Sanders is a socialist . That's better than being a capitalist .

There is absolutely zero chance I would ever consider voting for Bernie Sanders or any other socialist.  I am 100 percent free market capitalist in my views.  Neither Jesus nor the Bible promotes socialism.  Jesus taught that the church should be charitable and provide alms of their own free will to help the poor.  Socialism is a system that makes the state god, and robs one group of individuals to re-distribute their wealth to others by force of law.  If it was up to me, we would gradually eliminate the welfare state, and shrink the government down to the size it was in the 1920s.  No Christian should support socialism, and I can easily go through any arguments they make to try to show how socialism lines up with scripture and prove them wrong.  I have done it before. 

I am very interested in reading your rebuttal to socialism versus Christianity.  Please see if my perspectives will be able to align with yours by convincing me.

It is really pretty simple how I would take this on.  I would challenge you to show where Jesus or any of the Apostles ever looked to government as the solution to the poor.  I would show how Jesus always taught us to be cheerful givers of our own accord, and there was no mention of anything close to socialism.  I would take on the one instance where there is an appearance of socialism in Acts, and show how that was voluntary, and those who didn't want to participate didn't have to.  We are taught as Christians to look to God as our source, not government.  If you really want to debate this one on one, I would be open to a Soap Box debate, but you should have a pretty good idea of my arguments.  You will have to show Jesus, Paul, James, John, etc., teaching us to look to government.  I don't believe you have a chance of succeeding.  I on the other hand will have to show what Jesus actually did teach us to do. 

[submission]

Robin Hood, I essentially agree with you and discuss this in some depth on Christian Forums under Politics, then General Political Discussion, on the second page under a thread I started titled "A Chrisitan Economy".  On that forum I am known as Only a Sojourner. I agree with many of Mr Sanders stands on economic issues. I have difficulty with his position on Christian social issues, eg, gay marriage & abortion. You will find scant support for Bernie Sanders views on this forum. Certain types of views tend to go together and support for socialism, or  even Keynsian economics do not go together with conservative Christian moral values in the US. The reasons are largely soicological- historical and not based on any intinsic logic. Unfortunately I do not have the time to discuss this subject in depth at this time on this forum. However if you are interested check out the other forum where I was engaged in an extended dialogue on the subject. My views are quite atypical although not entirely unique.

Edited September 8, 2015 by submission