Where was Eden - Was it actually in Israel?

[eprom]

if Israel (Jerusalem) was/is where the Garden was, why are you the first one to ever come up with this theory? don't you think that with all the geologist, and all the others that have done and are doing research and studies on the anchient days would have come to the same conclussion?

I'm not the first! Rabbinical tradition has stated for thousands of years that Eden was originally in Israel. See Here:

http://www.faith-friends.com/Eden/modules....ndex&page_id=21

Conservative evangelical scholar Dr. John Sailhamer has recently published a booked called "Genesis Unbound" where he contends Eden was in the region we understand as Israel. See Here

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8449/genesis.html

Beloved conservative apologist and scholar Ernest L. Martin believed Eden was in the geographic region of Israel. See Here:

http://askelm.com/doctrine/d040301.htm

Eden is gone from view, not to be seen by man until the Lord God totally restores it.  until then it really does not matter where it was.

I've never suggested Eden could be found today!

as far as the location being of interest, that is fine.  just like the Ark of the Covenant's location being known........ when God says it is time, it will be revealed.

It is time!

[eprom]

I agree that the Lord has buried (or hidden in some other way) Eden - that is, the Garden of Eden. I am not so sure the Old Garden of Eden will ever be restored though.

The garden as it was in Genesis 2-3 will never exist as it did, but Eden's river will flow again.

http://www.faith-friends.com/Eden/modules....ndex&page_id=14

Edited March 6, 2005 by eprom

[irishcowboy]

as far as the location being of interest, that is fine.

[eprom]

are you sure about that?

There are new discoveries everyday in the area of archaeology and Biblical studies - why the daunting scepticism?

Even if you could even find the exact spot where the Tree of knowledge of good and evil was placed and point it out to the world and the world would just shrug it off.

I have, read this:

http://www.faith-friends.com/Eden/modules....ndex&page_id=14

those that get too caught up on things, are losing focus on the one that made the things

Jesus said to watch and wait - I happen to believ that biblical studies are part of the watching!

in your opinion, in what way do you really feal that the location of eden matters? no web sites, no books, i am asking in your opinion

I have defined this isue throughout this thread. Read Posts 11, 12, 29, 33, 35, 37, 42, 49, 50

[nebula]

I'm going to repeat what I said earlier:

I agree that the Lord has buried (or hidden in some other way) Eden - that is, the Garden of Eden.

I am not so sure the Old Garden of Eden will ever be restored though.

Here is my reasoning -

Rev. 21:5 - Then He who sat on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new."

Rev. 22:1,2 - And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.

In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

[eprom]

I agree that the Lord has buried (or hidden in some other way) Eden - that is, the Garden of Eden. I am not so sure the Old Garden of Eden will ever be restored though.

I would agree, as I stated in my last post! There is, however, a new reality of this garden or orchard that will be realized in the Millennial Kingdom. This is the fulfillment of

[nebula]

This is the fulfillment of

[eprom]

Sorry, I don't have time to read this web page you keep advertising . . . But what is your Scriptural bases for claiming this is Eden's river?  I see no mention of Eden in Ezek. 4. And didn't Eden have more than one river?

Dear nebula - The information you want is on the link. I see no reason why I should re-write the article here for your benifit.

[nebula]

All right - I went to your link -

And I still saw nothing that says why the river in Genesis is Eden's river.

I only saw "here's a verse" and "here's a verse" with the assumption of them being the same, but nothing that clearly states where the claim that the river in Revelation and in Ezekiel are the river in Eden comes from.

[eprom]

All right - I went to your link - And I still saw nothing that says why the river in Genesis is Eden's river. I only saw "here's a verse" and "here's a verse" with the assumption of them being the same, but nothing that clearly states where the claim that the river in Revelation and in Ezekiel are the river in Eden comes from.

Perhaps if it was defined as you are suggesting, it wouldn