AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 12 minutes ago, OakWood said: If God knows everything from beginning to end then his own existence is pointless That sounds kinda sorta human-like understanding brother. Then you went on to say it would be " boring " ( another human-type predicament ). Right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I wonder if anyone reading this thread, will have an "AHA moment", "I get it now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just now, AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken said: That sounds kinda sorta human-like understanding brother. Then you went on to say it would be " boring " ( another human-type predicament ). Right ? No not really, it's just logic. We are made in God's image. The Lord created us for his pleasure. Where is the pleasure in complete pre-destination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 14 minutes ago, OakWood said: God knows what the future will be because he has the power to make it happen as he wishes, not because an unchangeable script is already in place. Now we get to the " bottom-line ". If He makes it " as He wishes " then how is it " changeable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 1 minute ago, Omegaman 3.0 said: I wonder if anyone reading this thread, will have an "AHA moment", "I get it now!" As long as " it " is His will and mind and not my own, then amen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just now, AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken said: As long as " it " is His will and mind and not my own, then amen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted November 27, 2015 1 minute ago, AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken said: Now we get to the " bottom-line ". If He makes it " as He wishes " then how is it " changeable ? It's changeable if he decides to change it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 Yeah, see that's the thing. By the way I am not arguing with you brother ( not what I enjoy ), I am reasoning, and you are offering me " food for prayer " ( as I call it ) , can we talk about the times God has changed His mind, will, plan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just now, AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken said: Yeah, see that's the thing. By the way I am not arguing with you brother ( not what I enjoy ), I am reasoning, and you are offering me " food for prayer " ( as I call it ) , can we talk about the times God has changed His mind, will, plan ? God does change his mind. He has the freedom and power to do so. Pre-destiny would prevent God from doing so, therefore there is no such thing as pre-destiny. God however does not break his promises so he will not change his mind where prophecy is concerned or where his grand plan is concerned. God does not change his nature either. He is the same today as he was yesterday. His moral code is the same. He does not follow the fashions of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) 17 hours ago, OakWood said: God does change his mind. He has the freedom and power to do so. Pre-destiny would prevent God from doing so, therefore there is no such thing as pre-destiny. God however does not break his promises so he will not change his mind where prophecy is concerned or where his grand plan is concerned. God does not change his nature either. He is the same today as he was yesterday. His moral code is the same. He does not follow the fashions of men. He does not change His mind. He knows our hearts and minds ( which may change with the wind ) but that never, ever redirects His plan. Edited November 28, 2015 by AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Had misread quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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