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  1. Did God "needed" the original sin?

    The idea of a right number of souls might have come from Rom 11:25 and I think it does mean that God has a certain number of believers that he wants saved before he brings history to a close. He could have created those souls in other ways but he chose to do so through Adam and his descendents. I believe God hoped Adam would stay free of sin - hence the Fall was not a necessity - but Adam failed God. God was nevertheless prepared with a salvation plan in the event Adam failed and so the Fall came as a disappointment but not a surprise to God. This is where we are now.
  2. Possible End Time Timeline (a bit different)

    I believe you are right that the multitude in Rev 7:9 represents the raptured saints. However, v 14 says they come out of the great tribulation which implies the great tribulation is already in progress when the multitude are extracted. Also, that John places the two witnesses in ch 11 in the midst of his description of the trumpet plagues indicates that those two minister during the period of the trumpet plagues and not earlier.
  3. Can you lose your Salvation?

    I think the whole tone of the NT suggests we can lose our salvation. For example, why would Paul need to agonise over the Galatian christians and plead with them if he believed they could not lose their salvation?
  4. Half An Hour

    I think the silence denotes the time immediately after the Rapture. All those pesky christians are gone and the world thinks it can enjoy peace and safety for a change (1 Thess. 5:3). But then destruction will come suddenly in the form of the trumpet plagues. Btw, the half hour is a good indication that God lives in time.
  5. Conditional Salvation

    That verse is used not only in an end-time context in 17:33 but also more generally e.g. in Lk 9:24. Salvation is conditional upon us remaining true to the faith, as Col. 1:23 makes clear.
  6. Timelines and Chronology

    Can those who fail to trust in the Lord alone be classified as Christians? If not, why would the AC persecute them? He knows they are lost anyway. Makes more sense for him to reward them so that Christians might be tempted to follow. Anyway, how do you read the 1,290 days and 1,335 days; what events do they refer to?
  7. Timelines and Chronology

    According to the above, those who remain in the holy land must have agreed to the AC's peace treaty; why then are they persecuted?
  8. Timelines and Chronology

    Hi again, I suppose it is theoretically possible for the beast to set up the AoD by intrigue but I don’t see any occasion in history where the Jews have been tricked into letting that happen. I think the desecration of the temple by a foreigner has always resulted from force instead. As for Daniel 12, I doubt the short time between the death of the two witnesses and Armageddon is important enough to warrant God setting separate prophetic dates, especially as the two witnesses are nowhere hinted at in Daniel. Anyway, just my opinion.
  9. Timelines and Chronology

    Hi LD. If the beast is to set up the AoD in the Jerusalem temple, wouldn’t he have to conquer the city first? Presumably defending Jerusalem would be the Jews’ last stand. So shouldn’t its fall amount to and coincide with the ‘shattering of the power of the holy people’?
  10. Revelation 3:10

    If we apply 3:10 to the first century church and not to the end time church, there is no confusion.
  11. I think common sense tells us prayers would make no practical difference were the future already fixed. Thankfully the bible does not say it is. Hence we can pray without such doubts at the back of our minds.
  12. How did the Lord never know them?

    You are right; that is an important distinction. These people relied on Jesus to cast out demons and perform miracles. Mark 16:17 says those are marks of believers. I think they must have followed Jesus initially but later went astray and practised iniquity instead. So Jesus will deny knowing them as he said he would in Matt 10:33.
  13. And except those days should be shortened.

    Jesus was likely referring to AD70. His comment does not apply to the great tribulation.
  14. the living bible translation

    Thanks for pointing out LB’s unique rendering of Pr 16:27. It led me to ask why it is so. My guess is that LB sees the same type of person in v 28-30 due “dishonest” in both v 28 and 30 (ESV). V 27 talks instead about a “worthless” person i.e. possibly a different type. Question is, how is this person worthless? LB probably thinks v 27 serves instead as a contrast to v 26. Nothing impossible about that. Now since v 26 talks about the importance of work, it could mean the person in v 27 is worthless because he/she is idle. Hence LB’s paraphrase of v 27 actually has more thought put into it than do the literal translations. LB was my first bible and I grew up loving it. Working through Pr 16:27 reminded me why - it is so refreshing to read. So while the LB does have some strange reading, I would recommend it to any new believer.
  15. Eschatology Rapture Warning

    I think we frequently violate the warning in Rev 22 when we ignore (deduct) the natural meaning of the text and import (add) an imagery from outside Rev to support another meaning that we prefer.