Life after physical body death

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, bopeep1909 said:

Your belief of universalism is between you and God.Life is full of choices and God has given you the freedom to belief as you choose.Your belief is not from the Holy Bible.

That is correct. Universalism is false doctrine, so beware of those who present this distortion of the truth. Only those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.

[junobet]

7 hours ago, angels4u said:

First of all who is Saint Jerome? We live by the word from God not from anybody else.

Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" Matt.4:4

You said :: I fear that there are many  ‘hell-believing’ Christians who just believe in eternal punishment for unbelievers because they never dared questioning the traditional interpretations they were brought up with and/or – worse – because they are driven by their own need for what sociologists call “othering” and their own very human and very ungodly lust for vengeance.

Why did God send His Son to save the sinners? You make the cross into  nothing by thinking that it was for nothing that His Son died for you and me and everybody would go to heaven and live in glory with Him forever?

Do me a favor and look for all the words hell in the Bible and read them very closely ,my friend you have been mislead to believe a lie..

Can you post them so we can discuss what the Bible verses mean?

 

 

 

Jerome was the bloke who translated most of the Bible from Hebrew and Greek into Latin. His Vulgata is what the King James Version was translated from. He also wrote many commentaries on the OT and the Gospels.

I hope this doesn’t sound arrogant – it’s certainly not meant that way and I’m certainly  far from an expert myself – but it strikes me as odd that so many American Evangelicals revere the Bible so much and yet so few of them bother to find out how it got to us and how it was viewed by Christians throughout the ages.

Now I don’t know about you, but I find it rather noteworthy that in Jerome’s time universalism was still a widely held view among Christians and that it got increasingly subdued the more Christianity aligned itself with the very Roman Empire that the author of the Book of Revelation had so much beef with some 200+ years earlier.

I also find it noteworthy that so many here shout “Bible! Bible! Bible!” and yet – probably unbeknownst to them - all that echoes in their posts are (sometimes rather crude versions of) Augustinian or Calvinist interpretations of the Bible.

And how do I make the cross into nothing? Quite the contrary is the case: I believe that God saw that his creation was very good (Genesis 1:31) wanted to save the world (John 3:17) and did so (John 19:30). It seems you either believe that God wanted to save the world but only manages to save a few, because humans can defy His will by their free will (Augustine), which would imply that God is weaker than men, or (in the Calvinist version) that God didn’t really mean to save the entire world but just a few select people, which imho would imply that God is a shoddy creator who has to put most of His creation on the rubbish-dump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna).

P.S.: Just on a side note: according to the Bible the “Word of God” is not a book but a person: Jesus Christ (John 1:1-4), but maybe that’s what you meant in the first place and I completely misunderstood you.

 

 "In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. ² He existed in the beginning with God. ³ Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made. ⁴ In him was life, and that life brought light to humanity.^[a]"

Edited January 13, 2016 by junobet
Beauty of the verses demanded a full copy/paste