JohnD Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 A I recall this topic can get rather heated. 2 Corinthians 11:3–4 (NASB95) 3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.† †Paul's rabbinic sarcasm Galatians 1:8–9 (NASB95) 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! Apparently it behooves us to get the right Jesus or we are forever lost. One way to authenticate which Jesus we believe in is to dive into what the Bible says about God. Is God a singular person (or: individual, for those who quibble over the word "person")? Is God modalistic, morphing from Father to Son to Holy Spirit? Is God just the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit being a lifeless force conjured up by both Father and Son? Or is the one God triune, three individuals who are the one God? It matters not what this so-called expert says, or what commentary that theologian wrote, or what this or that denomination or non-denomination holds to traditionally. What matters is what the Bible says. Acts 17:11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 And yet John, the bible does not explicitly define the Trinity, and so you have other interpretations that result in something other than the Trinity, or some abridged form of the Trinity. Without the testimony of the Early Church to settle which interpretation is right, all we have are a variety of interpretations each claiming to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristen Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,367 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1,340 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Status: Online Share Posted January 19, 2016 Like eschatology, soteriology and all the other doctrines Christians study and debate, Trinity is a concept derived from scripture. The fact that the doctrinal label doesn't appear in scripture is irrelevant to the fact that the concept is taught in scripture. The Deity of God the Father is self-evident. The eternal deity of Christ is overwhelmingly supported in scripture. Whilst the deity of the Holy Spirit is also supported in scripture (albeit more modestly), as the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit is also self-evidently God. Yet the Bible also teaches that God is One. This is supported by the paradoxes provided by John that Christ was both "with God" and "was God" and that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit "are One". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2016 11 hours ago, other one said: YES Do we three "Yeses" to support the doctrine of the Trinity? Of course this doctrine is Biblical. But we do have some naysayers lurking around on every forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 20, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2016 We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completedbeliever1 Posted January 20, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 181 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/15/1975 Share Posted January 20, 2016 22 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: And yet John, the bible does not explicitly define the Trinity, and so you have other interpretations that result in something other than the Trinity, or some abridged form of the Trinity. Without the testimony of the Early Church to settle which interpretation is right, all we have are a variety of interpretations each claiming to be right. I am happy to see that this subject was brought up again. For some reason I didn't see that until now on another post. I do not see the trinity in scripture. There is no scriptural proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 20, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 minute ago, completedbeliever1 said: I am happy to see that this subject was brought up again. For some reason I didn't see that until now on another post. I do not see the trinity in scripture. There is no scriptural proof. There is scriptural proof, but you won't find one verse being explicit of the entire teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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