angels4u Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 13 hours ago, Davida said: Looks Germany and much of Europe is doomed- seems like they are under a strong delusion. So is the whole world Davida.. 10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. 2 Thess. 2:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 hours ago, junobet said: Please call me a nitpicker, but “Allah” isn’t a Christian word, it’s a Semitic one (Arab is a Semitic language). Its etymological equivalent in Hebrew is “Elohim”, a word which OT-scholars will be familiar with. What I mean by Christian word is it was used by Christians long before Islam was even a spark of an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: To say that the allah of islam is the same as our God IS blasphemy. And too many Christians believe that they are the same. That is what other one is saying. Is a Christian using the word "God" meaning the same thing as a Mormon using the word "God" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 .....Ask them who they think God or god is . There's probably several ((different answers)), maybe more than a dozen, just in the readers today. From what several already said/posted in the past , the answer is sometimes yes. Once is too often (for their sake). 3 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: Is a Christian using the word "God" meaning the same thing as a Mormon using the word "God" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 7 hours ago, ayin jade said: To say that the allah of islam is the same as our God IS blasphemy. And too many Christians believe that they are the same. That is what other one is saying. They may not have arrived yet, at the spiritual understanding of who Jesus is , but but in many ways ,so many, they are better behaved, than so called christians, who do not condemn enough the society they have helped to create That it is more than likely, that they follow God , well most of them in the same way ,that pre christian Israelites did . It may also be our God's way of bringing 'balance 'to the west for it's atheism, and degraded mores ,by forcing us to reconsider what do we really want in the name of christianity ? If christians in general were really following God, then their societies would be better ,not so depraved ,so who is to say that anyone is following the true God, just because they say so . If the fruits are not there ,then maybe they are deluded . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 That's what all the ones set free from the worldly 'form' of christianity, 'christendom' the world saw for centuries, repeated, just as you repeated what the Bible basically says overall. ((except the Bible never says 'society' would be good, nor that 'better behaved' would do them any good)). 12 minutes ago, Thallasa said: If christians in general were really following God, then their societies would be better ,not so depraved Where the assemblies ((ekklesia)) really do follow Jesus, the assemblies are quite plainly showing His Life to all those around them. There apparently is no society on earth doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2016 10 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: Allah in Christianity = The Trinity = God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. There is absolutely nothing blasphemous at all about it. But Allah "OF" Islam is not the trinity or the Father or the Son or the Holy Spirit.... you are playing with words and I'm playing with entities.... and there are people who play with your words to say that Allah of Islam is equal to Allah the Father and that's blasphemous. Allah of Islam is Satan..... Just look at his attributes in the Koran/Hadiths and the attributes of Satan in the Bible. So stop playing with words that will let some not so bright people think the God of Islam is the same as the God of Christians and Jews.... it just isn't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 5 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: What I mean by Christian word is it was used by Christians long before Islam was even a spark of an idea. and what difference does that make...... Does the word being used instead of Elihim change who the Father is.... or change who Satan is.... I can't figure if you are just dense or trying to push Islamic thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just now, other one said: and what difference does that make...... Does the word being used instead of Elihim change who the Father is.... or change who Satan is.... I can't figure if you are just dense or trying to push Islamic thought. Other one, it is wrong to label as blasphemers Christians who use the word Allah to pray to and worship and speak of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 5 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: Is a Christian using the word "God" meaning the same thing as a Mormon using the word "God" ? Yes, but it's not speaking of the same entity... the word God can be used for any number of things. I have relatives who's God is Money and I worked with people who's God was themselves.... The word God isn't the point.. There are many Gods, the Bible says so.... Ah, but for US there is only one God.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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