simplejeff Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 No one here in this thread has shown any animosity to any brethren in Christ anywhere. They know enough not to use the name , the pagan name, when they are among believers and even around unbelievers who know it as a pagan name. It is only you who have objected. 6 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: ... What bothers me isn't that there is disagreement, but there has been such animosity expressed towards brothers and sisters in Christ who use the word "Allah" to worship God. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 this is insane, I just simply can't do it any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: No one here in this thread has shown any animosity to any brethren in Christ anywhere. They know enough not to use the name , the pagan name, when they are among believers and even around unbelievers who know it as a pagan name. It is only you who have objected. Here we go again . . . Calling "Allah" a pagan name means Arabic Christians are calling God by a pagan name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, simplejeff said: when they are among believers and even around unbelievers who know it as a pagan name. 5 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: means Arabic Christians are calling God by a pagan name. I know you have a lot of trouble understanding simple english. Try reading it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 It always is. Try some of the forums where True Christianity isn't allowed ! Here, on wcf, the purpose is we are supposed to learn how to counter the worldly and anti-Scripture views. On the pagan boards, paganism is the purpose . Like quicksand everywhere. 10 minutes ago, other one said: this is insane, I just simply can't do it any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, simplejeff said: I know you have a lot of trouble understanding simple english. Try reading it again. My english is fine, thank you Jeff. I think this is where this ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 Praise Allah...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted January 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: But we aren't taking it back. We never lost it. There are over a million Christians who use the word Allah to worship God every day. If we allow ourselves to have an aversion to the word "Allah" then we will look at our Arabic speaking Christian brother an sisters differently and satan would absolutely love that. Good point, if there are Christians using the word Allah, I don't know for myself, But, at this site I believe, there is a prevalence of allah referring to the god of islam. Does one have to make accommodations to those who are around one? I have never seen this to be an issue, maybe it is to others, I'll leave it alone after this also, God bless, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just now, other one said: Praise Allah...... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: What I remember in my research from years ago is that Islam was" birthed" out of Christianity, much like Mormonism was. Where Mormons changed who God of the Christians is, Islam didn't, but presents a very distorted view. That isnt correct. Islam began when mohammed spoke with a so called angel who was rather brutal to him. He thought it was a demon but his wife convinced him otherwise. Mohammed had contact with an ebionite who gave him a false view of Christianity. That carried over into the quran. Islam did not come from Christianity. Islam twists who God is. From a previous post of mine..... Some reasons why the allah of islam isnt the God of the bible. 1) Christians believe that God is spirit. John 4:24 God is a spirit, and they who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth. Islam says God isnt spirit. 2) Our Lord is transcendent and immanent. While both Christians and muslims believe in the transcendence of God, muslims believe He does not interact at all with mankind. We believe God is intimately involved in our lives (immanence). 3) We believe God reveals Himself, not just His law. Islam believes that allah's will is manifested, but not allah himself. Our Lord reveals Himself all throughout the bible. 4) The Trinity. God is God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Islam proclaims allah has no son. 5) Our Lord loves us while we sinners. For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son. While we were yet sinners, He reached out to us in love. Yet for muslims, allah loves no sinner. 6) Our Lord does not want anyone to perish. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not purposing that any of us should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Islam says allah desires to punish people. 7) How God regards the Jews. The Jews are Gods people. The bible tells us this. Allah of islam hates the Jews. 8) Our Lord is unchanging. Islam believes in the doctrine of abrogation, where allah can change his mind at whim. Our Lord is unchanging. 9) Forgiveness. We are forgiven on the basis of the atoning work of Jesus. His sacrifice (and our acceptance of Jesus) means we are forgiven and reconciled with the Lord. In islam, forgiveness by allah is based on the whim of allah. You have no way of knowing if you are forgiven or not. The only reasonably sure thing is death by martyrdom. Allah of islam is NOT the God of Abraham, not the Lord we believe in. Islam is not an offshoot of Christianity. It is a perversion of worship of the true Lord. (Mormons do not worship the same Lord either. They have changed whom He is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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