Genesis- a Prophecy? a History Book? and other things Prophetic

[Cody91]

I wanted to start a discussion the fact that Moses was a prophet, and that just as Isiah had parts of his scriptures as current events of the time and others of future events, so did Moses
I am here to say that from my study of God's prophecy writing style, the first chapter of Genesis speaks upon the entirety of time from beginning til the end.

 I also wanted to start a Discussion on the fact that the prophecies in the Book of Revelation(s?) do not happen at the same time, and many of them have happened and more will come to pass

Anyone want to bite/rebuttal before I actually come out with all of the verses- just a warning I am new to the process of debate and this is a fairly new revelation for me so I will need time to reply to questions and rebuttals, I want to do everyone justice!

God Bless you all!

[Ezra]

Genesis is a historical/spiritual record given by Divine inspiration to Moses. It does have prophetic content also, as do all of the books of the Bible.  Proof of Divine inspiration is Bible prophecy, particularly when fulfilled.

[n2thelight]

I'll just offer this

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3. GENESIS FINDS ITS COMPLEMENT IN THE APOCALYPSE.

1. Genesis, the book of the beginning.	1. Apocalypse, the book of the end.
2. The Earth created (1:1).	2. The Earth passed away (21:1).
3. Satan's first rebellion.	3. Satan's final rebellion (20:3, 7-10).
4. Sun, moon, and stars for Earth's government (1:14-16).	4. Sun, moon, and stars, connected with Earth's judgment (6:13; 8:12; 16:8).
5. Sun to govern the day (1:16).	5. No need of the sun (21:23).
6. Darkness called night (1:5).	6. "No night there" (22:5).
7. Waters called seas (1:10).	7. "No more sea" (21:1).
8. A river for Earth's blessing (2:10-14).	8. A river for the New Earth (22:1, 2).
9. Man in God's image (1:26).	9. Man headed by one in Satan's image (13).
10. Entrance of sin (3).	10. Development and end of sin (21, 22).
11. Curse pronounced (3:14, 17).	11. "No more curse" (22:3).
12. Death entered (3:19).	12. "No more death" (21:4).
13. Cherubim, first mentioned in connection with man (3:24).	13. Cherubim, finally mentioned in connection with man (4:6).
14. Man driven out from Eden (3:24).	14. Man restored (22).
15. Tree of life guarded (3:24).	15. "Right to the Tree of Life" (22:14).
16. Sorrow and suffering enter (3:17).	16. No more sorrow (21:4).
17. Man's religion, art, and science, resorted to for enjoyment, apart from God (4).	17. Man's religion, luxury, art, and science, in their full glory, judged and destroyed by God (18).
18. Nimrod, a great rebel and king, and hidden anti-God, the founder of Babylon (10:8, 9).	18. The Beast, the great rebel, a king and manifested anti-God, the reviver of Babylon (13-18).
19. A flood from God to destroy an evil generation (6-9).	19. A flood from Satan to destroy an elect generation (12).
20. The Bow, the token of God's covenant with the Earth (9:13).	20. The Bow, betokening God's remembrance of His covenant with the Earth (4:3; 10:1).
21. Sodom and Egypt, the place of corruption and temptation (13, 19).	21. Sodom and Egypt again: (spiritually representing Jerusalem) (11:8).
22. A confederacy against Abraham's people overthrown (14).	22. A confederacy against Abraham's seed overthrown (12).
23. Marriage of first Adam (2:18-23).	23. Marriage of last Adam (19).
24. A bride sought for Abraham's son (Isaac) and found (24).	24. A Bride made ready and brought to Abraham's Son (19:9). See Matt. 1:1.
25. Two angels acting for God on behalf of His people (19).	25. Two witnesses acting for God on behalf of His People (11).
26. A promised seed to possess the gate of his enemies (22:17).	26. The promised seed coming into possession (11:18).
27. Man's dominion ceased and Satan's begun (3:24).	27. Satan's dominion ended, and man's restored (22).
28. The old serpent causing sin, suffering, and death (3:1).	28. The old serpent bound for 1,000 years (20:1-3).
29. The doom of the old serpent pronounced (3:15).	29. The doom on the old serpent executed (20:10).
30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated with Israel (37:9).	30. Sun, moon, and stars, associated again with Israel (12).

[gdemoss]

Time will never end.

There will come a time when nothing ever changes again.

This is known as the eternal state.

The good news is that here and now we may repent which is to change but when the verse in Revelation comes to pass which states let him who is ______ be _______ still then there will be no hope for change.  Eternal loss will be complete.  Time will go on forever.

That is how I understand it.

[post]

2 hours ago, gdemoss said:

Time will never end.

There will come a time when nothing ever changes again.

isn't time a measure of change? 

then, if change ceases . . . 

[MorningGlory]

12 hours ago, post said:

isn't time a measure of change? 

then, if change ceases . . . 

No; time is just an earthly concept.  God is not subject to our limited time and, once we enter His Kingdom, we will not be either.

[post]

2 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

No; time is just an earthly concept.  God is not subject to our limited time and, once we enter His Kingdom, we will not be either.

that sounds like your understanding jives with the idea of time ceasing to be .. ? 

"eternity" is a weighty concept that i'm not sure any of us can really comprehend in our present state. i have that it's something like timelessness - as in being separated from time altogether. the Lord sees all of time; He's not limited by it, as you say - He speaks of the future in the present tense, and has known the end since the beginning; in the beginning, He "was" already - He is the beginning and end, and is before the beginning, and after the end. and He has said, we will be like Him, fully knowing as we are fully known by Him. 

i guess whether time "ceases" or not is probably a matter of semantics - because we, in this age being subject to it, i doubt fully comprehend it. i don't disagree with either you or gdemoss - i just think "time" itself and it's nature is interesting, and am excited for that day when we see Him face to face, to finally apprehend it! 
 

[gdemoss]

On 1/29/2016 at 8:01 AM, post said:

isn't time a measure of change? 

then, if change ceases . . . 

No.  Change does not cease.  People being able to change ceases. Motion isn't done away with.

[Ezra]

On 29/01/2016 at 3:40 AM, gdemoss said:

Time will never end.

Actually Scripture says that time will end. Eternity ("for ever and ever") means the end of time (Rev 22:5).

[gdemoss]

11 hours ago, Ezra said:

Actually Scripture says that time will end. Eternity ("for ever and ever") means the end of time (Rev 22:5).

I understand this is how you interpret this.  I disagree.  Peace.