3 soldiers wounded by PA gunman at West Bank checkpoint

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14 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

We must remember, we cannot pray for the dead.  The fate of the dead is already sealed.  

Hmm when I said I can pray for terrorists to be saved (and stop being terrorists), I did mean while they were alive. I know the fate of a dead person has already been determined. 

My husband reminded me of the book Son of Hamas, how a terrorist found Jesus and changed. There are many such stories out there. 

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C. H. Spurgeon (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit [Pilgrim Publications], 24:410-411) reported how John Bunyan said “that he often felt while preaching that he could give his own salvation for the salvation of his hearers.” Then Spurgeon stuck the knife in: “And I pity the man who has not felt the same.”

This paints a picture of caring.  I don't have much sympathy for terrorists.  But I wonder if I should.  For someone to become a terrorist, I believe has been deceived, to devote themselves to Satan's lies.  

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3 minutes ago, hmbld said:

C. H. Spurgeon (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit [Pilgrim Publications], 24:410-411) reported how John Bunyan said “that he often felt while preaching that he could give his own salvation for the salvation of his hearers.” Then Spurgeon stuck the knife in: “And I pity the man who has not felt the same.”

This paints a picture of caring.  I don't have much sympathy for terrorists.  But I wonder if I should.  For someone to become a terrorist, I believe has been deceived, to devote themselves to Satan's lies.

Isn't our Christian duty to the innocent?

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18 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Isn't our Christian duty to the innocent?

(Technically no one is truly innocent.)

We should help folks who are "innocent" but that doesnt mean we shouldnt also feel sad that a terrorist dies lost in sin for an eternity in hell or that we shouldnt wish them saved too.

You came along after this event in my personal life, but just over a year ago my brother in law was murdered. He is with Christ now, so in that I can rejoice. I pray for the salvation of his killer and I forgive him as Christ has told us to forgive others. I am however glad he is in prison for life and cannot harm anyone else.

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7 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

(Technically no one is truly innocent.)

We should help folks who are "innocent" but that doesnt mean we shouldnt also feel sad that a terrorist dies lost in sin for an eternity in hell or that we shouldnt wish them saved too.

You came along after this event in my personal life, but just over a year ago my brother in law was murdered. He is with Christ now, so in that I can rejoice. I pray for the salvation of his killer and I forgive him as Christ has told us to forgive others. I am however glad he is in prison for life and cannot harm anyone else.

I didn't know any of this.  You speak as a true Christian when you pray that the murderer be saved.

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47 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Isn't our Christian duty to the innocent?

Certainly.  Criminals, terrorists, etc need to be dealt with and stopped.  I can not find any joy in any soul going to hell.  I have not killed anyone, yet I don't consider myself any more deserving of God's mercy than another.  

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7 minutes ago, hmbld said:

Certainly.  Criminals, terrorists, etc need to be dealt with and stopped.  I can not find any joy in any soul going to hell.  I have not killed anyone, yet I don't consider myself any more deserving of God's mercy than another.

What the Bible Says About Prayer Against One's Enemies

Isn't God the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow?

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44 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

What the Bible Says About Prayer Against One's Enemies

Isn't God the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow?

From the site you provided:

 

Psalms 104:35Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.

Now, from the same bible, it says:

Ezekiel 18:23  Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

1 Timothy 2:4  who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9  The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

 

So yes, I do believe God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow, just as scripture says.  I read that God does desire all people to be saved, and He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. 

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13 hours ago, hmbld said:

From the site you provided:

 

Psalms 104:35Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.

Now, from the same bible, it says:

Ezekiel 18:23  Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

1 Timothy 2:4  who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9  The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

 

So yes, I do believe God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow, just as scripture says.  I read that God does desire all people to be saved, and He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.

But yet when David prays against his enemies in Psalms, God refers to David in the warmest regard "After removing Saul, he made David their king. He testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do."   [NIV, Acts 13:22]

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11 hours ago, Davida said:

This is a very hard time and some of us get more news from multiple sources so we are very aware of the amount of terrorism that is happening and the horror and suffering it is causing on a wide scale - just as per their plan. We need to understand & support each other in the challenge to deal with these horrible events we are seeing.  I have some days when I am more compassionate and understanding and days when I am feeling less so and  more feeling beaten down.  Sometimes the woes of this world almost are too much to bear.   I can relate to Saved One - he wants the killing and suffering to stop. Let the would be victims of Terror  be protected O mighty Lord GOD.

Some days,  I feel so acutely aware of the victims and weep & pray for the world , my heart & prayers are for them, that they and their families souls will repent & be saved before they are murdered in brutal terrorism. I pray for the saints that are being tortured, raped & killed for GOD to bestow peace & give them Godly courage & that God will take away their pain & suffering.

 I pray also for the demonized followers of Islam that they would repent & turn to the real God the God who is Holy who Loves and who is Just, and that Father God would give them mercy  & the grace that they be released from Satan's grip and saved by the Lord Yeshua and give Glory to The Most High LORD GOD Yahweh who Saves!

I admit it is hard for me to pray for the terrorists (like Boko Haram) who killed 86 innocent children.  I'd like to know that God's judgment will be poured out in full upon those people, both here on Earth and in the afterlife.  I will pray for the families of these innocent children.  This is something no loving parent should have to live with ever.  When my wife and I lost two children during pregnancy, it was devastating.  I can only imagine how these parents and relatives must feel, if they themselves are still alive.