Chapter 16 - Mark's ending

[Melony]

Chapter 16 - Mark's ending

 

I like this text. What do you think: What is new of the new? For these 6 Verses. Mark 16, 15- 20 (NIV version) feel free to use your text.

¹⁵ He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. ¹⁶ Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. ¹⁷ And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; ¹⁸ they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”  ¹⁹ After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. ²⁰ Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.

Best wishes – M

Sorry: I had the german text in my first version. It is not – study groop posting (just daring to start free zone, Christian, doctor. Germany)

 

 

Edited February 15, 2016 by Melony
engl text-given

[thereselittleflower]

I have no idea what it says in German, or how the German comes across so I have no idea how to discuss this with you.

 

 

[Ezra]

1. Contrary to all the modern Bible versions, the last twelve verses of Mark are genuine Scripture. There is a book by that name by John William Burgon to prove that this section was deliberately removed from some manuscripts.

2. These are the departing instructions of Christ to His apostles, including what is known as "the Great Commission".

3. The Gospel would be authenticated with the sign gifts given to the apostles (as listed).  They are also called "the signs of an apostle".

4. After giving these instructions, the Lord Jesus Christ ascended into Heaven bodily, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father.

[Deborah_]

3 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

I have no idea what it says in German, or how the German comes across so I have no idea how to discuss this with you.

 

 

It should say exactly the same, because both English and German are translations of the same original.

 

27 minutes ago, Ezra said:

1. Contrary to all the modern Bible versions, the last twelve verses of Mark are genuine Scripture.

I don't know any NIV-user who would ignore these verses. I have done a Bible study on them. The very fact that there IS an NIV translation of them says something, doesn't it?

[Deborah_]

To address the OP, here is just one thought:

 

The Gospel was not just for Jews, nor even just for people living in Palestine; it had universal relevance and application. In fact, it is good news not just for human beings but for the whole of creation. It is the announcement that ‘our God reigns!’ (Isaiah 52:7) And once we understand this, nothing is ever the same again.

 

[thereselittleflower]

6 hours ago, Melony said:

Chapter 16 - Mark's ending

 

What is new of the new? For these 6 Verses. Mark 16, 15- 20 (NIV version) feel free to use your text.

¹⁵ He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. ¹⁶ Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. ¹⁷ And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; ¹⁸ they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”  ¹⁹ After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. ²⁰ Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.

Best wishes – M

This is not – study groop question. (just started my free posts zone, Christian, doctor of Med. Germany)

 

Would you - read this Mark 16, 15- 20 Text. pray, meditate- whatever you normaly do - and come back here (after one or two days). Thanks

I am intrested to hear - everyones coments.

 

Thanks for using an English translation.    I think it means exactly what it says it means.   But I'm not sure what you mean by "what is new of the new"  ?

Sorry.

 

[RustyAngeL]

I"m not sure what you are asking.  He told His disciples to go into the world and preach the gospel.  To lay hands on the sick to cast out demons, then Jesus was take up into Heaven to sit at the right Hand of the Father. What is your question?

[Melony]

There is discussion to leaf this out, yes! From 320 AD church father Eusebius reported that the first Marks gospel text do not contain [9- 20 verses]. The power was in the precious early writings. Ending is open. To understand what happens will not weeken any of our beleafs. (Though the meaning of ending is very diffrent. I pray that we understand better- were the diciples stood in the 3 early centuries.) The Tone of the given passage may be less cross centered. Most of the content – we find backed up in other text.

A week point of the discussed text here - can most likely be melted down and reduced to 2 following verses. The writer shared a command of our enabeling: We can like verse 18) handle snakes and poison – very alike Paul did in Acts. And the writer of Hebrews shares about our highpriest similar as we see here in Marks verse 20) as seated with God. Each of these verses had at least 40% more neutral content. More than the 10 other verses in Mark 16,9- 20 – all content is backed up and reads very edifying. It had helped many christians in there walk and builds up more understanding of our present calling.

Thanks all for sharing – M

Edited February 25, 2016 by Melony

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, Melony said:

Actually for vers 20. 'Seated at the right hand of our Father.' I have not found parallel scripture. Have you seen any @Ezra? More for tomorrow...

Melony,

There are many Scripture which reveal that Christ is now seated at the right hand of the Father. Here is one from Hebrew 1:3,4 KJV:

[Christ] Who being the brightness of his [God's] glory, and the express image of his [God's] person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

[Melony]

We should not - feel much thread ! Other than (calculating or) giving a vague figure below, this going through more extended lists never edified much. So I decided to not mention more about minor or miniscule changes. Let see what there is:

(1) HE sais: Love your enemies,[bless them] that curse you Mt 5,44;     (2) Jesus... rebuked them, and said [what manner of spirit are ye of].Lk 9, 55.    (3)  this ending of Mark [16 9- 20];                         (4) An adultary word  [ John 8, 1-- 11 ] that makes it 2x 12 verses. [= not in old text wittness]

At Mt 15,39 a single-word on this is: 'Magadan', the name of a galileen harbor. Or containing the other hint 'Magdala' (is likely the King James -versions used). Such wording might lead one to suspect also the greek text of a personal bible. I have crosschecked that many times.  I will give a vague calculation for 4 gospel content below (with my disclaimer – in some cases it is not easy to tell and proof). Going through more extended lists had in my hands - never edified much. So I learned to not mention more minor or miniscule changes.  - I hope that helps.

We, as a 'worthy' Jesus orientated community - might not have to look into this in far details. And many of us would not work through such things our selfs. Though some of the more qualified might proof there accuracy and deligence in this field also. This will one day help those (of very few) that realy want to know about this..I count 26 changes in our 4500 gospel verses (like above). In the first 1400 years of non-print-copying (befor Luther) there may be up to a total of 200 (like 4,44%) of gospel verses having to do with any (miniscule or) minor text diversion. One eight's of that is what y see here above. It is not more

Yours - M

 

Edited February 15, 2016 by Melony
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