WailingWall Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 458 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2017 5 hours ago, shiloh357 said: My faith is in Jesus, not in the Sabbath. Yeah! Mine to. REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS. I also observe to keep His commandments. Including His 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Spock said: In addition, I strongly object to the way the Sabbath day was changed from Saturday to Sunday and believe it was highly motivated with anti semitism and piggybacked on a pagan holiday, Sun-day worship of the pagans. Also, the church of Nicaea decisions mean nothing to me. "The reason why God instituted the old Sabbath was to be a memorial of the creation; but he has now brought the first day of the week in its room in memory of a more glorious work than creation, which is redemption." http://biblehub.com/library/watson/the_ten_commandments/2_4_the_fourth_commandment.htm Any thoughts on the theory that Sunday, as the day of redemption, being significant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, hmbld said: "The reason why God instituted the old Sabbath was to be a memorial of the creation I don't think this is in line with any SCRIPTURE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, hmbld said: Any thoughts on the theory that Sunday, as the day of redemption, being significant? It's not even a theory. It's only tradition. It is significant because it affects billions of souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, hmbld said: "The reason why God instituted the old Sabbath was to be a memorial of the creation; but he has now brought the first day of the week in its room in memory of a more glorious work than creation, which is redemption." http://biblehub.com/library/watson/the_ten_commandments/2_4_the_fourth_commandment.htm Any thoughts on the theory that Sunday, as the day of redemption, being significant? I can't buy that brother. Can you show me where in the Bible any of the 12 apostles had their day of rest and worship on Sun-day? It may sound good to make it Sunday because Jesus rose on Sunday, but I will need a lot more evidence, in particular for the Bible writers that they abandoned Saturday and moved it to Sunday. I will keep tracking this thread to see if you have any. Thanks. spock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, WailingWall said: Yeah! Mine to. REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS. I also observe to keep His commandments. Including His 4th That's fine and it is your choice to keep the seventh day as the Sabbath. But you have no right, biblically, to say that it is obligatory on all believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Spock said: I can't buy that brother. Can you show me where in the Bible any of the 12 apostles had their day of rest and worship on Sun-day? It may sound good to make it Sunday because Jesus rose on Sunday, but I will need a lot more evidence, in particular for the Bible writers that they abandoned Saturday and moved it to Sunday. I will keep tracking this thread to see if you have any. Thanks. spock No, Spock, just wanted to see what you thought. I've read different reasons for Sunday, this was one. As far as the fourth commandment, Shiloh has expressed perfectly the conclusion I've come to after reading this topic for several years now, not just in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, hmbld said: "The reason why God instituted the old Sabbath was to be a memorial of the creation; but he has now brought the first day of the week in its room in memory of a more glorious work than creation, which is redemption." http://biblehub.com/library/watson/the_ten_commandments/2_4_the_fourth_commandment.htm Any thoughts on the theory that Sunday, as the day of redemption, being significant? What you are saying/quoting has know scriptural basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted April 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, simplejeff said: It's not even a theory. It's only tradition. It is significant because it affects billions of souls. Theory, tradition, I don't know. Just something I read and wanted to ask about. As far as billions of souls, are we justified by faith or by keeping the Sabbath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted April 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Just now, worthy said: What you are saying/quoting has know scriptural basis. Ok, thanks. I was just asking as I don't know why so many Christians go along with Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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