The End of the Gentile World System.

[Murphy]

Revelation 21:12

It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

Gates are where the people are Judged, where Judgement is rendered. The gates also guard the Kingdom.

 

Where is the 13th gate for the gentile?

[Guest shiloh357]

7 minutes ago, Murphy said:

This is the great mystery that Paul spoke of.

 

Those with eyes to see and ears to hear...........Israelites. As is was then, it is now.

 

I can show you some things.......proof......but it's a long long path.

 

Read the bible from beginning to end, you will see.

The great mystery Paul spoke of was the Church.   I have read the Bible beginning to end and the stuff you are teaching is hogwash.   No one with any real understanding of Israel's history buys into that nonsense.

[Guest shiloh357]

Just now, Murphy said:

Revelation 21:12

It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

Gates are where the people are Judged, where Judgement is rendered. The gates also guard the Kingdom.

 

Where is the 13th gate for the gentile?

Why would there be a thirteenth gate for the Gentile???   You are pushing the symbolism further than the author intended.

[Murphy]

Revelation 11:2

But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.
 

 

 

John is told to measure the Temple (God's people) but to exclude, do not measure, the gentile (others, other nations).

[Guest shiloh357]

5 minutes ago, Murphy said:

I will suggest something else to you. All that is spoken of here is also found in the NT.

It depends on what color glasses you wear as to whether or not you will see it.

Israel is in the NT, but you have been taught otherwise by the church, from the day you arrived at church. Rather than handing you a pair of reading glasses, they handed you blinders so you cannot see.

 

It's there, Israel is there.

None that nonsense is contained in the NT.  You are trying to pencil stuff into the Bible that isn't there.  It's just the same false teaching that others have tried to push on people on this board in the past.

[Guest shiloh357]

15 minutes ago, Murphy said:

"Doctrines" are of men, I reject all doctrines.

I had not heard of any such teaching at the time that I discovered my own identity by reading the entire Word.

The covenant made with Abraham, sands and stars, the innumerable.

 

Somehow, people believe that the Israelite died, became extinct, and that somehow Christians crawled out of the waters as amoeba and began and entire new race of human.

It's a serious question, where do you think you came from?

 

You base your religion on the foundation of the Jewish people and then you reject your foundation.......this is confounding to me.

 

Either God lied, or you have a biblical problem.

 

Further, throughout all of the Tanakh, God promises to regather his people, Israel. This has yet to happen.

 

Did your God lie?

God didn't lie.  That's not the problem.  The problem exists in your sloppy handling of God's word.  My identity is found in Jesus, not in Israel.

[Murphy]

2 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

None that nonsense is contained in the NT.  You are trying to pencil stuff into the Bible that isn't there.  It's just the same false teaching that others have tried to push on people on this board in the past.

Luke 1:32–33

 

32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.”

 

 

Jacob is Israel.

[Guest shiloh357]

Just now, Murphy said:

Luke 1:32–33

 

32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.”

 

 

Jacob is Israel.

God uses Jacob and Israel interchangeably in the Bible.   Neither term is used of Gentiles anywhere in the Bible, especially the NT.

[Guest shiloh357]

7 minutes ago, Murphy said:

Revelation 11:2

But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.
 

 

 

John is told to measure the Temple (God's people) but to exclude, do not measure, the gentile (others, other nations).

The Temple mentioned there does refer to any group of people.  It refers to an actual building, an actual temple structure.

[Murphy]

Just now, shiloh357 said:

The Temple mentioned there does refer to any group of people.  It refers to an actual building, an actual temple structure.

No, there will be no third temple that God will recognize.

Not an actual building.