Should we go to towns of Israel and preach the Gospel to the jews?

[Guest Thallasa]

22 hours ago, Qnts2 said:

1) To go to another country to preach the gospel, is essentially being a missionary which requires a definite calling. Israel in particular can be a difficult country. To share the gospel in Israel requires knowledge of Hebrew, and an understanding of the laws and culture. 

Also, preaching that the kingdom of heaven is at hand worked in Jesus time as the culture of Israel was expecting the Messiah to come very soon. They could look at Jesus and hear what He said and was doing to compare Him to the Messianic prophesies. Today, the culture does not view the Messiah as imminent and most know nothing about Jesus/Yeshua, so to share the gospel means to explain that Jesus was Jewish, and fulfilled some of the prophesies, etc. Today, sharing the gospel with a Jewish person is not a one shot proclamation but rather a study of the NT, a bit at a time, and comparing it to the OT. From start to finish, it can take a 1 year process for each person. If a Jewish person does come to believe in Yeshua, there is often a backlash of friends and family, so after leading a Jewish person to the Lord, it takes standing with them, and helping them. Again, it is not a one shot wonder but a long term commitment. 

2) That takes some discernment to no if they will not receive you. When dealing with Jewish culture, culturally, many Jewish people feel obligated to rebuff a person who comes to share the gospel. So, sometimes, while a Jewish person might be interested and drawn, they feel like they must reject rather rudely, but if they are being drawn, they will return to ask more questions, and then once again rudely and strongly reject, only to return again to ask more questions, etc. etc. etc. 

 

I will also say, people like George live in Israel. Missions groups dedicated to sharing the gospel with the Jewish people are in Israel speaking to the Jewish people. (At this time, there is interest). Most of the missions are struggling as few Christians are donating. Especially since churches are divesting from Israel, growing anti-semitism in the churches, groups which discourage sharing the gospel with the Jewish people like Hagee's group. 

Thank you for this clear post . It is very helpful to know from those who know .

[LeavesSeeds]

re ".....and no one had heard the bible anywhere is to act as it we were living 2 thousand years ago."

 

The Bible was read every Sabbath .   All the faithful Jews (even the little children) knew the Bible better than most Bible teachers today.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said:

re ".....and no one had heard the bible anywhere is to act as it we were living 2 thousand years ago."

 

The Bible was read every Sabbath .   All the faithful Jews (even the little children) knew the Bible better than most Bible teachers today.

I do not think so...................

The religious rulers had pretty much twisted a lot of it. Especially prophetic events and their role in it.

Ac 13:27  For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

It's quite clear Jesus warned concerning their doctrines...........................
Mt 16:6  Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Mt 16:11  How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
Mr 8:15  And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
 

IMO, this is the biggest mistake being made in the Church currently..............Is not listening to these very warnings........

 

Tit 1:14  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

 

[Ogner]

28 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Why do you ask ?

Did you see ANYONE claim salvation is possible without Jesus ?

And I didn't see anyone say to wait for salvation as you asked

- Indeed, God says TODAY, if you hear His Voice, do not rebel as they did in the wilderness.....

 

 

Why did you fail to answer my question?

Jesus is the Only Way to Salvation. Do you agree?
Do you believe what there is no salvation apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ as Lord?

If your answer yes, you can not say, "salvation comes through the Jews", now.

[Guest Thallasa]

21 hours ago, Ogner said:

It is never easy to preach Gospel. But I think you're getting a little too complicated.

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, in 2008, of Israel's 7.3 million people, 75.6 percent were Jews of any background. Among them, 70.3 percent were Sabras (born in Israeli), mostly second- or third-generation Israelis, and the rest are olim (Jewish immigrants to Israel)—20.5 percent from Europe and the Americas, and 9.2 percent from Asia and Africa, including the Arab countries.

Jewish Population of Israel by paternal country of origin 
From Europe, America and Oceania by own or paternal country of origin: 1,939,400 = 35.11%
Russia/USSR    923,600 & Poland    198,500
Romania    213,100 & Other Europe    61,100    

Statistics published by Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics on Wednesday show that 27,908 Jews have immigrated to Israel during 2015, consisting of a 16-percent rise over the number of Jews who have made Aliyah (immigrated) to Israel in 2014.

The majority of the Olim (immigrants), 53 percent, came from Russia and Ukraine, many of them fleeing the conflict in the area.

France came in second with 24 percent, as France’s Jewish population is leaving the country in wake of the rampant anti-Semitism and the advent of Islam and Islamic terror in the country. Only nine percent of the Olim came from the U.S.

In Israel the main language is Hebrew, but many people also speak English or Russian. Almost one-third of Israel's population belongs to the Russian-speaking minority. Many of those who were born in Israeli also speak English or Russian. What are the cultural differences between them and us? 
For example, You can speak in English and I can speak in Russian & Ukrainian. We don't need to speak in Hebrew to share the gospel in Israel. 

Therefore preach the Gospel in Israel is no harder than in USA, Russia or Ukraine.

 Whether it's Israel or anywhere else ,people have had the opportunity and accepted or rejected it . Qnts has said enough there . As for France many christians were Jews and many Jews will beome Christians when the time is right .They have a need to settle without feeling harrassed and pressured ,and then God will choose the moment .

 

 

[Guest Thallasa]

15 minutes ago, Ogner said:

Why did you fail to answer my question?

Jesus is the Only Way to Salvation. Do you agree?
Do you believe what there is no salvation apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ as Lord?

If your answer yes, you can not say, "salvation comes through the Jews", now.

 I think most misunderstand that Salvation comes collectlvely as well a individually ,and it is collectively that salvation comes through the Jews ,and individually through Jesus Christ . Jesus sets in motion all salvation ,but He has given a special role to the Jews in His  long term plans .Those Jews who believe in God the Father  have had a role in history which supercedes other cultures ,at least this is what I think .

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, Ogner said:

If you a Christian you can not say, "salvation comes through the Jews", now

Correct.  That statement was applicable before the crucifixion and the resurrection.  Following the rejection of Messiah by Israel, and following the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (with the dispersion of the Jews worldwide), salvation comes through the preaching of the Gospel. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17).  In the meantime, there is a veil over the hearts and minds of Jews who limit themselves to the Old Testament and ignore Christ and the New Testament (2 Cor 3:1-18).

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

 I think most misunderstand that Salvation comes collectlvely as well a individually ,and it is collectively that salvation comes through the Jews ,and individually through Jesus Christ . Jesus sets in motion all salvation ,but He has given a special role to the Jews in His  long term plans .Those Jews who believe in God the Father  have had a role in history which supercedes other cultures ,at least this is what I think .

I do not think so. The Jew's here were the apostles that built the Church. So the "jewish" Church is not a "culture" and did not  superceed any cultures.

Rather the Church superceeds all cultures since all nations were brought into it.

 

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Correct.  That statement was applicable before the crucifixion and the resurrection.  Following the rejection of Messiah by Israel, and following the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (with the dispersion of the Jews worldwide), salvation comes through the preaching of the Gospel. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17).  In the meantime, there is a veil over the hearts and minds of Jews who limit themselves to the Old Testament and ignore Christ and the New Testament (2 Cor 3:1-18).

Amen Ezra. Some seem to being blinded to the fact that  since 70 ad "Jewishness" (thought, understanding, etc) is all from the Pharisees. That sect is the only sect which survived to rule over Jews and Judaism. But some simply cannot or will not see that. There is absolutely nothing other than Pharisaic Judaism to draw on for "Jewish" understanding since 70 ad. Yet Christ and the Apostles warned about their doctrines............. they especially erred when it came to prophetic writings and application.

Some of Christs first Apostles were John the Baptists disciples...................The disciples of Christ continued in that ministry while Christ walked this earth. JOHN WAS NO PHARISEE.........................

[LeavesSeeds]

• "If I regard iniquity in my heart, the LORD will not hear me" (Psalm 66:18).
   
• "Then shall they call upon Me, but I will not answer; they shall seek Me early, but they shall not find Me" (Proverbs 1:28).
   
• "He that turneth away his ear from hearing The Law, even his prayer shall be abomination" (Proverbs 28:9).