Communion vs Holy Communion

[WebersHome]

On ‎8‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 6:35 AM, Knowingtruth said:

Who instituted the communion? Paul or Jesus?

 

The Greek word for "communion" is koinonia (koy-nohn-ee'-ah) which essentially  means partnership, for example:

 

● 1John 1:3 . .What we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, that you also may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

 

Koinonia (here translated fellowship) refers to being a member of a team, or a guild, or an agency, or a union working together towards a common goal.

 

The common goal as regards the Lord's supper is as a memorial; which Christ taught first, and then Paul.

 

● Luke 22:19-20 . . And when he had taken some bread and given thanks, he broke it, and gave it to them, saying: This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of me. And in the same way He took the cup, yada, yada, yada

 

● 1 Cor 11:23-26 . . For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said: This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me. In the same way he took the cup also, after supper, saying: This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

 

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Edited August 7, 2016 by WebersHome

[ayin jade]

Jesus instituted communion. Not the catholic one but the protestant one. 

Do you have something against paul? His writings are part of the bible and considered scripture by peter in a verse in the bible.

[WebersHome]

4 hours ago, WebersHome said:

The Greek word for "communion" is koinonia (koy-nohn-ee'-ah) which essentially  means partnership

 

Koinonia, as it's used when speaking about the Lord's supper, also applies to the people dining who, regardless of their denominational affiliation, are all identified with Christ due to just one salient, historical event.

 

● 1Cor 10:16-17 . . Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? Since there is one bread, we who are many are one body; for we all partake of the one bread.

 

The Greek word in that passage for "sharing" is koinonia; which is sometimes translated "communion" vz: Christ's crucifixion is the one element of Christianity that lumps all Christians together; and it's useless to resist for "we who are many are one body".

 

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[Knowingtruth]

5 hours ago, WebersHome said:

 

The Greek word for "communion" is koinonia (koy-nohn-ee'-ah) which essentially  means partnership, for example:

 

● 1John 1:3 . .What we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, that you also may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

 

Koinonia (here translated fellowship) refers to being a member of a team, or a guild, or an agency, or a union working together towards a common goal.

 

The common goal as regards the Lord's supper is as a memorial; which Christ taught first, and then Paul.

 

Well said

 

● Luke 22:19-20 . . And when he had taken some bread and given thanks, he broke it, and gave it to them, saying: This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of me. And in the same way He took the cup, yada, yada, yada

 

It is well known that some ancient manuscripts do not contain the reminder of v.19 (portion with the word remembrance)nor any of v. 20 which indicates a later insertion by Pauline people.

 

● 1 Cor 11:23-26 . . For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said: This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me. In the same way he took the cup also, after supper, saying: This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

 

In fact, it is His resurrection that we need to declare. There is no big deal in proclaiming the death of a person.

 

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[Knowingtruth]

4 hours ago, ayin jade said:

Jesus instituted communion. Not the catholic one but the protestant one. 

Do you have something against paul? His writings are part of the bible and considered scripture by peter in a verse in the bible.

The authorship of 2 Peter by Peter is disputed. Nevertheless, the logic used for equating scripture to Paul's can also be used to prove otherwise.

[ayin jade]

3 hours ago, Knowingtruth said:

The authorship of 2 Peter by Peter is disputed. Nevertheless, the logic used for equating scripture to Paul's can also be used to prove otherwise.

So you do not think the bible is the word of God then?