1. GOD`S PROPHETIC CALENDAR. A. The Day of Christ.

[Ezra]

8 hours ago, TehMill said:

What will happen is that our perfection will be made manifest when the Lord appears for we ARE perfect in Christ, declared to be so by God.

This is a teaching that gets missed by many Christians. When God justifies a sinner, He makes him, and declares him, to be as righteous as Christ. This is called Amazing Grace.

[Marilyn C]

40 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I hope we don't make a wrong turn on the way LOL.

Hi Yowm.

Ha, ha. But then Jesus is with us & He knows the way to His heavenly home - all`s good.

regards, Marilyn.

[Ezra]

On 8/20/2016 at 7:16 PM, Marilyn C said:

The Body of Christ will `meet` the Lord & then escort Him to His own Throne.

I believe the Lord is the one who will escort His Body, His Bride, and His Building -- not the other way around! Christians should understand that all three metaphors apply to the Church, which is ultimately the Lamb's Wife.

[Marilyn C]

1 hour ago, Ezra said:

I believe the Lord is the one who will escort His Body, His Bride, and His Building -- not the other way around! Christians should understand that all three metaphors apply to the Church, which is ultimately the Lamb's Wife.

Hi Ezra,

Which scripture/s are you referring to that actually say the `called out ones` are `a bride,` the Lamb`s wife. Those symbols always refer to Israel. (Israel is the bride, the wife of the Lamb)

`I will betroth you to me for ever;....` (Hosea 2: 19)

`For your Maker is your husband....` (Isa. 54: 5)

 

As to `the building` that is in relation to God being the architect & the one who `builds us together.

`For we are God`s fellow workers; you are God`s field, you are God`s building.` (1 Cor. 3: 9)

 

The word `Body` is used many times to refer to Christ`s Body, & He is the Head of the Body.

`(God) put all things under His feet & gave Him to be Head over all things to the church, which is His body,...` (Eph. 1: 22 & 23) 

 

As who is `escorting,` the Greek word `apantesis` is used only on three occasions in the New Testament, each with the connotation of escorting a person to their destination.

`Then we who are alive & remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet, (escort the Lord to His destination)...` (1 Thess. 5: 17)

 

Marilyn.

Edited August 27, 2016 by Marilyn C

[Marilyn C]

10 hours ago, TehMill said:

Yes to believe that the church will be in a percieved state of perfection is amiss, nor will she be gathered on account of being perfect, indeed it is impossible for the most of the church has gone before and has gone in a state of imperfection yet we read that the DEAD in Christ will be first to rise.

What will happen is that our perfection will be made manifest when the Lord appears for we ARE perfect in Christ, declared to be so by God.   
 

 

Hi TehMill,

I believe, (as I think you do also) that we will all be made perfect when we see Him, for we shall be like Him, -

`Beloved, now we are children of God; & it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him as He is.` (1 John 3: 2)

However the Eph. 4, ( 11 - 16) scriptures are related to DOCTRINE. Many people have died over the centuries standing for certain truths that we today take for granted & don`t have to contend for to such a degree. The Holy Spirit is still leading us into all truth, as Jesus said He would, & so we still have some truths that need clarifying so we are not `tossed to & fro & carried about with every wind of DOCTRINE.` (Eph. 4: 14)

Both individual maturing & corporate Body standing for the truths as they are revealed over the centuries by the Holy Spirit.

Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

2 hours ago, Ezra said:

This is a teaching that gets missed by many Christians. When God justifies a sinner, He makes him, and declares him, to be as righteous as Christ. This is called Amazing Grace.

Hi Ezra,

Amen bro, I totally agree - individual maturity when the Lord comes. I also believe that the Body corporately will receive all the truths that the Holy Spirit is leading us into.

Marilyn.

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

 

As who is `escorting,` the Greek word `apantesis` is used only on three occasions in the New Testament, each with the connotation of escorting a person to their destination.

`Then we who are alive & remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet, (escort the Lord to His destination)...` (1 Thess. 4: 17) [corrected]

Strong's Concordance

apantésis: a meeting

Original Word: ἀπάντησις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: apantésis
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-an'-tay-sis)
Short Definition: the act of meeting, to meet
Definition: the act of meeting, to meet (a phrase seemingly almost technical for the reception of a newly arrived official).

As you can see, the word means meeting, not escorting. Technically it means reception. So you must be using a faulty translation, which produces a faulty interpretation. If anyone is doing the escorting, it is the Lord, not the Church.

As to the Church being the Bride of Christ, please review Ephesians 5 and Revelation 19, among many other passages. Israel is not in view, but the Church is.

[Marilyn C]

6 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Strong's Concordance

apantésis: a meeting

Original Word: ἀπάντησις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: apantésis
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-an'-tay-sis)
Short Definition: the act of meeting, to meet
Definition: the act of meeting, to meet (a phrase seemingly almost technical for the reception of a newly arrived official).

As you can see, the word means meeting, not escorting. Technically it means reception. So you must be using a faulty translation, which produces a faulty interpretation. If anyone is doing the escorting, it is the Lord, not the Church.

As to the Church being the Bride of Christ, please review Ephesians 5 and Revelation 19, among many other passages. Israel is not in view, but the Church is.

Hi Ezra,

You will note that I said, `the Greek word `apantesis` is used only on three occasions in the New Testament, each with the connotation of escorting a person to their destination. Here is an example -

`And from there, when the brethren heard about us, they came to meet us as far as Appii Forum & the Three Inns. When Paul saw them, he thanked God & took courage.` (Acts 28: 15)

Here we see that the brethren came to `meet` Paul, to escort him as far a Appii & the Three Inns.

We do the escorting as the Lord is the victor.

 

I see you have NO scripture for the Body of Christ being the bride. Eph. 5 is an exhortation to husbands to love their wives as their own body. We are Christ`s body.

Rev. 19, concerns Israel as that is who the Lord will come at the end of the trb, to deliver. Note also that the `wedding feast,` in Matt. 22: 11 shows that it is on earth.

 

Marilyn.

 

[Marilyn C]

In the following scriptures we can see how specifically & consistently Jesus` name (Jesus) & titles (Lord & Christ) are used to designate the Day. (The Day of Christ)

`…being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the Day of Jesus Christ.` (Phil. 1: 6)

`And this I pray, that your love may abound still more & more in knowledge & discernment, that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere & without offence till the Day of Christ, being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory & praise of God.` (Phil 1: 9 – 11)

`I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of God which was given to you by Christ Jesus, that you were enriched in everything by Him in all utterance & all knowledge, even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you, so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the Day of our Lord Jesus Christ.` (1 Cor. 1: 4 – 8)

`For our boasting is this: the testimony of our conscience that we conducted ourselves in the world in simplicity & godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom but by the grace of God, & more abundantly towards you. For we are not writing any other things to you than what you read or understand. Now I trust you will understand, even to the end (as also you have understood us in part), that we are your boast as you also are ours, in the Day of the Lord Jesus (Christ).` (2 Cor. 1: 12 – 14)

The Day of Christ is the great event of our `gathering together,` to meet Christ the Head. This is specifically when the corporate Body of Christ from all over the world has reached full maturity of faith of Christ`s purposes, recognizing & obeying His authority & not man`s authority. It is the time when the Head, Christ is physically joined with His people, the Body of Christ.

Thus the Day of Christ relates, I believe, solely to the Body of Christ, & its removal from the earth. Paul is the only one who mentions this day and he is distinctly the Apostle to the Body of Christ.

 

Marilyn.