nebula Posted November 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Putting this in US News rather than U.S. Politics because it's about the people of the country. ************************* Higher education is isolated, insular and liberal. Average voters aren't. By Charles Camosy November 9 at 8:56 AM <snip> The most important divide in this election was not between whites and non-whites. It was between those who are often referred to as “educated” voters and those who are described as “working class” voters. The reality is that six in 10 Americans do not have a college degree, and they elected Donald Trump. College-educated people didn’t just fail to see this coming — they have struggled to display even a rudimentary understanding of the worldviews of those who voted for Trump. This is an indictment of the monolithic, insulated political culture in the vast majority our colleges and universities. <snip> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-college-educated-americans-are-out-of-touch/?postshare=9211478715528034&tid=ss_fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted November 10, 2016 The non college kids haven't had their heads pumped full of the liberal garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.67 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, nebula said: Putting this in US News rather than U.S. Politics because it's about the people of the country. ************************* Higher education is isolated, insular and liberal. Average voters aren't. By Charles Camosy November 9 at 8:56 AM <snip> The most important divide in this election was not between whites and non-whites. It was between those who are often referred to as “educated” voters and those who are described as “working class” voters. The reality is that six in 10 Americans do not have a college degree, and they elected Donald Trump. College-educated people didn’t just fail to see this coming — they have struggled to display even a rudimentary understanding of the worldviews of those who voted for Trump. This is an indictment of the monolithic, insulated political culture in the vast majority our colleges and universities. <snip> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-college-educated-americans-are-out-of-touch/?postshare=9211478715528034&tid=ss_fb It is a ridiculous theory that ignores that many "educated" people have had their degrees for decades and have not been part of the college experience since then and have nothing to do with the "insulated political culture" being spoken of . I got my first degree in the 70's and added a couple advanced degrees after that via non-Traditional methods. I spent my entire career in the most "conservative" of industries, the defense industry. I left college a conservative and stayed one till conservatives stopped being for smaller government and more personal freedoms. It is not so much that college educated people could not understand the worldview of the Trump votes, but that we have the knowledge to understand the true dangers to many of the things that Trump proposed during the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted November 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: the worldview of the Trump votes.... And America Free And At Work Is Such A Black And White Horror.... PS: IMO Most Collage Education Women (Wife's Degree Is Economics) Voted Trump I See A Root Problem; Our Blind Press And Their Proud Ignorance Of The Hopes Of Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, ENOCH2010 said: The non college kids haven't had their heads pumped full of the liberal garbage. stereotyping people can work both ways. . The left had carved out a niche in society doing that, but as you can see from the last election it is loosing it's potency. The left took different subgroups of people for granted and lost their rear ends? Education don't make you anything more than more educated. It's the indoctrination into ideology that is so deleterious to critical thinking. Without education we wouldn't have the advancements that distract so many uneducated people from paying attention to what's going on around them. The educated people only get paid more for creating the stuff uneducated people sleep outside stores for three days to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.67 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, FresnoJoe said: And America Free And At Work Is Such A Black And White Horror.... PS: IMO Most Collage Education Women (Wife's Degree Is Economics) Voted Trump I See A Root Problem; Our Blind Press And Their Proud Ignorance Of The Hopes Of Americans Not only did not most most College Education Women not vote for Trump, most women in general did not vote for Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.67 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Churchmouse said: Without education we wouldn't have the advancements that distract so many uneducated people from paying attention to what's going on around them. The educated people only get paid more for creating the stuff uneducated people sleep outside stores for three days to buy And we would not have doctors and teachers and nurses and engineers and...well you get the idea. It is always interesting to read the views of education from different groups of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Out of the Shadows said: Not only did not most most College Education Women not vote for Trump, most women in general did not vote for Trump This data comes from the same exit polls that basically said trump was going to lose in a landslide, though, so how trustworthy is it? These statistics are being carped on as facts but we really do not know what happened yet. It may be months before we know *precisely* what happened. It's going to take a lot more in depth research in the post election period before we can say with certainty who voted for who and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.67 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Steve_S said: This data comes from the same exit polls that basically said trump was going to lose in a landslide, though, so how trustworthy is it? These statistics are being carped on as facts but we really do not know what happened yet. It may be months before we know *precisely* what happened. It's going to take a lot more in depth research in the post election period before we can say with certainty who voted for who and why. If the numbers change drastically let me know. Right now the college educated white person came in at 2% for Trump, even if they are off by 20 or 30 points, we still don't have most college educated people voting for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted November 10, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: If the numbers change drastically let me know. Right now the college educated white person came in at 2% for Trump, even if they are off by 20 or 30 points, we still don't have most college educated people voting for Trump. He won college educated white *republicans* according to exit polls. I don't know where you get the 2 percent overall number, but that sounds absurd. No major demographic could've possibly went to hillary at 98 percent with how the numbers turned out. My guess is that a lot of people simply did not want to tell exit pollsters that they voted for him, because they didn't want to be judged. That also speaks to a bigger problem in the country, though, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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