PetriFB64 Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 I followed on the Media, for several months America's presidential election campaign and things that were related to it. If I would be American, so I wouldn't vote neither Trump or Clinton, because they both have done things that are against my moral values. I wrote about my observations why America's Media favorite Hillary Clinton lost the election. The thoughts are mine and you can agree or disagree with me. More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/uspresidentialelection2016.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiftofGod Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 24 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) You have some good insights, especially given your perspective of looking from the outside into the United States. There are additional factors... 1. I do believe in the power of prayer and I know many prayed over this election, the future direction of the Supreme Court, and support for Israel. Evangelicals prayed and voted. 2. When the pendulum swings too far into debauchery and hedonism, many times a nation will turn to an authoritarian leader (see 1930s Germany). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2847643/Berlin-liberal-hotbed-homosexuality-mecca-cross-dressers-transsexuals-male-female-surgery-performed-Nazis-came-power-new-book-reveals.html Whether or not God placed our president elect as a blessing (1) or a judgement (2) remains to be seen, but in either situation, it will ultimately be to God's glory. Edited November 11, 2016 by GiftofGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 This election was about either the further destruction of America or making America great again. Wikileaks helped to expose the Clinton and Democrat corruption, and Trump worked hard to present a sane agenda in order to overturn the damage created by Obama. And there is no question that God overruled in spite of all the hatred and malice against Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,525 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I think America was basically, sick of weak, innaffective, leadership that seemed bent on destroying us, and all Hillary's actions and all the obvious media bias towards her, fueled that fire, while trump seemed to be not only human, but the underdog here to save the day, not afraid to speak his mind and willing to stick it to the left, which many people have been wanting for a long, long time, and Americans love a true underdog. Whether or not Trump will be good for this country or not is to be decided, but I for one do not regret voting for him. There is no way America would have survived 4 years of Clinton after the last 8. So even if trump destroys the country, well, we were on the last legs anyway. He presented pretty much the best chance of our countries survival, and I'm not going to hold his sins against him. And realistically, we as Christians cannot. Keep in mind, if you dig into anyone including ourselves your not going to find anyone above reproach. Most of trumps sins were just that sins, a human being human. And he apologized for them. as a christian its hypocritical to hold them against him and not forgive him like Christ forgave us. While Clinton, her sins include multiple felonies, treason and quite possibly, murder, and has not shown any remorse but rather acted like she's above the law, which also fueled her own loss. I am more then willing to forgive her to if she came forward and admitted to what she has done and asked forgiveness, but I do not see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,836 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 hour ago, PetriFB64 said: I followed on the Media, for several months America's presidential election campaign and things that were related to it. If I would be American, so I wouldn't vote neither Trump or Clinton, because they both have done things that are against my moral values. Petri, I've done things in the past that are against my moral values, but God has not only forgiven those things he tells me that he has even forgotten about them.... I heard Mr. Trump say that what he did was wrong and ask for forgiveness..... and we are told that we get the same level of forgiveness as we give others. Apparently a whole lot of Americans feel the same. BTW I would not recommend listening to our media for information on judging people..... most of the things that the media has accused him of have been proven false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 hours ago, other one said: BTW I would not recommend listening to our media for information on judging people..... most of the things that the media has accused him of have been proven false. Exactly. The media have proved themselves to be the enemies of (a) the people of North America, (b) the Constitution, (c) the truth, and (d) reality. They have all committed themselves to the left-wing communistic agenda and look down on the ordinary people. They have isolated themselves into a fantasy world of their own making, but are undermining everything that is right, moral, or decent. It was blatant media bias that promoted Hillary and attacked Trump at every opportunity. They ought to be ashamed of themselves and apologize to the public. Instead, they are enjoying the riots rather than speaking out against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,836 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 "Enemies of the stste" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 Many people prayed ......and God answered , He gave the people what the people asked for, I see many good things in him as aa leader for America , first of all he supports Israel which would bless America, I believe if He stays close to God, God will bless America and heal their land but we all have to keep praying and stay close to God! He is also a tool in Gods hands.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted November 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2016 57 minutes ago, angels4u said: Many people prayed ......and God answered , He gave the people what the people asked for, I see many good things in him as aa leader for America , first of all he supports Israel which would bless America, I believe if He stays close to God, God will bless America and heal their land but we all have to keep praying and stay close to God! He is also a tool in Gods hands.. Angels, Trump needs to be truly converted and to see the hand of God in this matter (as Pence already acknowledge), and to see the glory of God. Nebuchadnezzar was a tool in God's hands, and was finally converted after his humiliation, but Belshazzar did not follow in his steps and was terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just now, Ezra said: Angels, Trump needs to be truly converted and to see the hand of God in this matter (as Pence already acknowledge), and to see the glory of God. Nebuchadnezzar was a tool in God's hands, and was finally converted after his humiliation, but Belshazzar did not follow in his steps and was terminated. I do realize that Ezra but did you not read the Trump accepted Jesus as his Savior a while back? He might be a baby Christian and that's why I believe it's so important we keep praying for Him to understand Gods will for America and to give him wisdom to make good decisions in all he will be doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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