missmuffet Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, LadyKay said: This is going to be another one of them debates were neither party can prove the other party to be right or to be wrong. It is going to be that way Lady until man has breath and a pulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ezra said: Why would Native Americans destroy horses, since horses became their main mode of transportation? Something does not sound right, and I have never heard of this. As to camels, not sure how camels entered into the New World either. http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-death-valley-fossils-20161116-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, LadyKay said: This is going to be another one of them debates were neither party can prove the other party to be right or to be wrong. like most other things time will tell..... and here at Worthy, we will discuss it till time tells us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 I didn't know America had camels. Did they have one hump tor two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, LadyKay said: I didn't know America had camels. Did they have one hump tor two? I don't know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 1, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, LadyKay said: I didn't know America had camels. Did they have one hump tor two? Dromedary. One hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Remnantrob said: But what about these figures with regards to their unusually high suicide rates? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/native-american-youth-suicide-rates-are-at-crisis-levels_us_560c3084e4b0768127005591 I never said life was perfect on the rez. I lived on one for 2 yrs so I saw firsthand how bad it was. But its still an improvement on how it was prior to the white man. One big problem with the high suicide rate is the lack of jobs and the overall oppression they feel. Because the tribal govt technically owns the land, and the feds dictate business conditions, the tribes have a hard time getting businesses to come to the rez. There are other factors too. One time that I know about, a tech firm came to the rez and wanted jewelry makers to work for them, because they were used to fine detailed work. The natives were happy to have a good paying job. Then AIM came in, the native equivalent of blm, and claimed it was exploitation. (It was not exploitation.) But to avoid constant battles with aim, the business (I think it was general dynamics) opted to shut down, with a resultant loss of jobs and income. Another instance I know about, a drive in movie theater in the phoenix area was on tribal land for decades. Their lease was up and they wanted to renew it. The feds refused to allow them to citing limits of how many times federal law would permit them to renew a lease. So the tribe lost income, the drive in closed, and the land is abandoned and unused. Then again, given something that happened recently in arizona, why would a company want to have a business on the rez? A company spent millions building the skywalk at the grand canyon. After it was done, the tribe claimed sovereignty and took it over, shutting the business out of it. Nothing anyone could do about it since it was on tribal land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Ezra said: Why would Native Americans destroy horses, since horses became their main mode of transportation? Something does not sound right, and I have never heard of this. As to camels, not sure how camels entered into the New World either. Pleistocene overkill. Clovis man, the natives that were here, drove herds off cliffs as the easiest method of killing for food. Thats why there are not native horses or camels any more. They also managed to make the mammoth (or is it mastodon) extinct in the americas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, LadyKay said: I didn't know America had camels. Did they have one hump tor two? Camelops is an extinct genus of camel that once roamed western North America, where it disappeared at the end of the Pleistocene about 10,000 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Camelops is an extinct genus of camel that once roamed western North America, where it disappeared at the end of the Pleistocene about 10,000 years ago. Well that explains why I did not know about the camels. I wonder what else I do not know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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