Steve_S Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: So this is why we should give Trump the benefit of the doubt. He is not officially President. He has no responsibilities yet so what is the big deal about him not going to briefings? I never asked anyone to give trump the benefit of the doubt. What it boils down to is that he is the president elect and he can pretty much do what he wants with intelligence briefings. I was simply saying that it doesn't concern me because there's nothing he can do with the information at this point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Why he was elected Probably because he was the only republican and only candidate in the general election that was anti-free trade and out-sourcing and 74 percent of the people in the country are against those things. When both parties so strongly get on the wrong side of an unpopular issue, it takes just one guy to mess the whole thing up. Also, he was the only person from both parties who wanted to build a wall and have strong border enforcement, also a very popular position with the right and center of the country. In other words, he got elected because he got on the right side of issues that virtually everybody else from both parties were on the wrong side of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, Steve_S said: I never asked anyone to give trump the benefit of the doubt. What it boils down to is that he is the president elect and he can pretty much do what he wants with intelligence briefings. I was simply saying that it doesn't concern me because there's nothing he can do with the information at this point anyway. Yes, he is President now and he can do as he pleases. Maybe...doesn't congress have something to say about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, Steve_S said: Probably because he was the only republican and only candidate in the general election that was anti-free trade and out-sourcing and 74 percent of the people in the country are against those things. When both parties so strongly get on the wrong side of an unpopular issue, it takes just one guy to mess the whole thing up. Also, he was the only person from both parties who wanted to build a wall and have strong border enforcement, also a very popular position with the right and center of the country. In other words, he got elected because he got on the right side of issues that virtually everybody else from both parties were on the wrong side of. I think I am a pretty good judge of character and he frightened me to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: I think I am a pretty good judge of character and he frightened me to be honest. People did not vote for him because of his character, they voted for him because he expressed having similar opinions to them as to the issues that they thought needed to be dealt with. If someone with what was perceived to be a better character had selected those same issues they'd have probably obliterated both trump and clinton. However, the fact that basically nobody else from either party (except sanders on trade partially) agreed with trump, but a large percentage of both the republican party and the general electorate did, he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: Yes, he is President now and he can do as he pleases. Maybe...doesn't congress have something to say about that? When i say he can do what he wants, i mean specifically with regards to whether or not he listens to intelligence briefings as a president-elect. But, yes, obama did greatly expand executive power, so trump has a lot more leeway there than anybody, ever, coming into the white house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Steve_S said: People did not vote for him because of his character.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 hours ago, missmuffet said: So Trump has no Presidential responsibility at all to go to those meetings. Why is Pence attending? He's not attending; he's touring with Trump. "Six weeks after his last campaign stop here, President-elect Donald Trump returned to thank voters in Pennsylvania who 'pushed us across the finish line'.... "Vice President-elect Mike Pence introduced Trump, rallying the crowd with Trump's plans to repeal Obamacare and fight for Americans...." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/16/trump-cheered-thank-you-tour-visits-pennsylvania/95507266/ So who's attending the daily intel briefings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Steve_S said: What qualifies someone to be POTUS is winning a presidential election - nothing else. That's the law of the land. Everything else is subjective. Qualification: "an attribute that must be met or complied with and that fits a person for something" Call me subjective, but I'm still looking to find those attributes in Prez-elect Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted December 16, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: He's not attending; he's touring with Trump. "Six weeks after his last campaign stop here, President-elect Donald Trump returned to thank voters in Pennsylvania who 'pushed us across the finish line'.... "Vice President-elect Mike Pence introduced Trump, rallying the crowd with Trump's plans to repeal Obamacare and fight for Americans...." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/16/trump-cheered-thank-you-tour-visits-pennsylvania/95507266/ So who's attending the daily intel briefings? All this bashing over nothing. One of the articles showed Obama prefers to get his briefings on a digital tablet. Trump only said he didn't want to waste time hearing the same briefing repeated daily, he instructed Pence and his cabinet to keep him updated with any important changes, makes perfect sense to me, all while he has no power to do anything about any intel gained, the whole world could change before he takes office, maybe Trump is smart enough to know he better have his staff set up and running and all his ducks in a row before he takes office, so he can efficiently deal with the huge spectrum the office of Potus entails. Trump has a lifetime of experience to know it takes a lot of groundwork before the business opens its doors. But thats ok, the Trump basing will continue, without any merit whatsoever. Are christians to be any beacon of hope at all, or are we to speak as the world does, tearing everyone else down? We are well past merely expressing concerns, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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