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Wow, where did this happen at? I do see it as right around the corner here in the USA, especially since they want to put into law what the bible is opposed to.

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Sorry I was not in the post during the past couple of days JesusisGod2. But this happened in Jersey City New Jersey. These people have been bragging on who is next. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004882.php

Several of our lay ministers have been threatened, including myself so much for peaceful islam


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I read this article and its very interesting, I also saw what was said about the president wanting chips implanted for medical records. My question is, can you refuse these? With times coming, and possibly fast, there is no right or wrong guess at what "the mark" could be. So Im wondering what is refusable and what is not. If its for medical records I guess my concern is, even if it is the mark, if you refuse it, then are you not able to recieve future medical care? If they all go to these I mean?


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I read this article and its very interesting, I also saw what was said about the president wanting chips implanted for medical records. My question is, can you refuse these? With times coming, and possibly fast, there is no right or wrong guess at what "the mark" could be. So Im wondering what is refusable and what is not. If its for medical records I guess my concern is, even if it is the mark, if you refuse it, then are you not able to recieve future medical care? If they all go to these I mean?

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I will refuse it myself, even if I cannot get medical care. One thing I had MS and many mri's. If you have the chip you cannot take mri's it would cause the chip to explode.

Those who have the chips will find that if there is power surges that sets these things off they will explode and burn the skin, sounds like revealtios, where those who accept the mark will have sores come up upon them. I willl take my chances. What our President is proposing is that all people in order to recieve any medical care would have to have the chip. That makes it mandatory. And of course veri chip is gleeful with this announcement.

I was a recent computer student, and one of our professors told us to switch majors from networking to programming these newe embedded chips, thay were the coming thing, and they will be a source of riches for those who got in on the ground floor. :noidea:


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I will refuse it myself, even if I cannot get medical care. One thing I had MS and many mri's. If you have the chip you cannot take mri's it would cause the chip to explode.

Those who have the chips will find that if there is power surges that sets these things off they will explode and burn the skin, sounds like revealtios, where those who accept the mark will have sores come up upon them. I willl take my chances. What our President is proposing is that all people in order to recieve any medical care would have to have the chip. That makes it mandatory. And of course veri chip is gleeful with this announcement.

I was a recent computer student, and one of our professors told us to switch majors from networking to programming these newe embedded chips, thay were the coming thing, and they will be a source of riches for those who got in on the ground floor. :24:

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Rev 13:11-18

11 And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 And he performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And there was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast might even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

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Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think you can get to the blue part without going through the red, and there should be absolutely no question about the red part. There are many different tools available today that could be used as the mark, but the rest of the story so to speak is seldome talked about, and should make this whole mark of the beast thing a little easier to understand..... (that is when the time comes, I think we will all know and it won't slip up on us)

It is my opinion that if you will not bow down and worship the beast you will not live long enough to worry about the mark. If I am wrong please set me strait....

Sam

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Rev 13:11-18

11 And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 And he performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And there was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast might even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

NASB

Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think you can get to the blue part without going through the red, and there should be absolutely no question about the red part. There are many different tools available today that could be used as the mark, but the rest of the story so to speak is seldome talked about, and should make this whole mark of the beast thing a little easier to understand..... (that is when the time comes, I think we will all know and it won't slip up on us)

It is my opinion that if you will not bow down and worship the beast you will not live long enough to worry about the mark. If I am wrong please set me strait....

Sam

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I agree with this thought as well.

I dont believe it will be something that one will take blindly but williningly, perhaps out of fear or out of desperation or even out of alliegence to the evil one, but I also believe that those who are of God will know in their spirit that this is the mark spoken orf in the scriptures.

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