Satanic Counterfeits Amongst the Church

[Fran C]

13 minutes ago, BacKaran said:

I'm on a phone so I just include everyone in my responses.

You're still doing it!

I have a phone too so I know what you mean... But you just have to push on the "quote" button.  It's only ONE click...

I'm sorry - I don't mean to tell you how to post...

[White Rabbitt]

8 minutes ago, Fran C said:

Gosh Yowm, you know that's pretty difficult to do.

Now, I did say that the N.T. is FULL OF WARNINGS exhorting us, the believers to hold firm till the end, to persevere, to maintain our salavation.

YOU said that we cannot lose our salvation.

So...

IF you agree that there are warnings, THEN you must also agree that they are for a reason.  What could the reason be for these WARNINGS YOU SPEAK OF HERE, if not for the fact that we COULD lose our salvation??

Fran

Again, you are putting words in other people's mouths.

You shouldn't keep doing this.

If you are wrong, then how many people have you deceived.

You can't use your OPINION when asking someone else to explain the truth, as though your OPINION was the truth.

[OneLight]

2 minutes ago, Fran C said:

Great point, Giller --

Exactly what FALSE DOCTRINE is Joel teaching?

Is he teaching HYPER grace?

If he's not teaching a false doctrine, what's the problem anyway?

Fran

The problem I see is not what he is saying, but what he is not saying.  If he ever gives a call to accept Christ, it is to have the blessings he has spoken of, not because they are lost in sin.  Jesus spoke about making deciples of all nations.  What does that mean in the case of Joel?

[Fran C]

1 minute ago, Heavenunlimited said:

Is it becoming about grace with faith only or just doings now? They both work together. Like James say you have faith without deeds ill show you faith with deeds. For dont you know o man that faith without do what He say is dead. Something like that. Sorry didnt write word by word. But its rhere. How do you explain that then? Isnt that clear you reciveve the faith but then, you gotta follow Him. Because. On that day, ..." I never knew you" ..  A man asked Jesus what to do to be saved. Firstl believe in Him. Then, love others like yourself. Follow the commandments. Thats THE LORD!!

Right.  You're referring to these verses:

James 1:22

James 2:14-20

Mathew 7:23

Mathew 22:37-39

Fran

[Heavenunlimited]

Thank you Fran,Ive just got back to The Lord, and I remember the verses kind off more than wbere and the time to find them..thata why i didnt wrote them also when before I fell,I had it in my own language as english isnt my mother tounge. 

[Heavenunlimited]

Giller, its peculiar you just mentioned that,  see Www.deceptioninthechurch.com

ive been reading that as The Lord showed me, what Ill be up against. I also recommend outofthedarkness on youtube a former witch turned to Christ.  And most of all, Johanna Michaelsen the beautiful mind of evil on youtube she comes in on ALL of this and how it started. A REAL eyeopener!

[Heavenunlimited]

The Lord specifically gave that first site to me. What you say Giller is exactly what theyre doing

[Fran C]

10 minutes ago, White Rabbitt said:

Again, you are putting words in other people's mouths.

You shouldn't keep doing this.

If you are wrong, then how many people have you deceived.

You can't use your OPINION when asking someone else to explain the truth, as though your OPINION was the truth.

Rabbit,

1.  I don't put words in people's mouths.  In fact, I always ask for clarity if I don't understand them.

2. Yowm isn't complaining - why are you?

3. I'm not wrong.  I'm never wrong...! LOL Does that little girl look like she's ever wrong??

4. I'm not expressing an opinion above, I do believe Yowm knows what I'm speaking about.

5.  My OPINION IS the TRUTH. Oh.  You thought YOUR OPINION was the truth??? LOL.

We all think we're right!!

Fran

[Guest BacKaran]

Duh! I finally figured out how to use the quote feature, I was not using it as I had a list of people I was waiting but then no one saw my quote cuz there were 11 quoted ahead of theirs for an answer.  

OK, I agree and that's exactly what the RCC does.... It didn't confront sin cuz all you need to do is go to confession weekly pay your alms and see you again the next week and repeat, the issue of sin is never dealt with in the RCC because the Truth, Jesus, sets one free and Rome can't have Jesus cutting into their money maker cult.

Edited February 4, 2017 by BacKaran
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[Fran C]

15 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said:

Thank you Fran,Ive just got back to The Lord, and I remember the verses kind off more than wbere and the time to find them..thata why i didnt wrote them also when before I fell,I had it in my own language as english isnt my mother tounge. 

No problem!  I think it's great that you could remember so much.

I wrote out the verses for those who might want to look them up.

What is your mother tongue?  I speak Italian.

Fran