University and Seminary School

[HisFirst]

I've heard this so many times:

If you go to Uni, you end up an atheist.

If you go to Bible College, you end up doubting Scripture....

Why??!!

 

 

I can understand it with Uni, as it is a worldly body but Bible college? What is being taught or, HOW is it being taught or WHO is teaching , that seminary students graduate doubting the Bible?

Edited February 24, 2017 by HisFirst

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, HisFirst said:

I've heard this so many times:

If you go to Uni, you end up an atheist.

If you go to Bible College, you end up doubting Scripture....

Why??!!

Because:

1. Universities have become hotbeds of atheistic Communism/Socialism/Progressivism/Left-Liberalism (all basically the same).

2. Seminaries and Bible colleges and schools have become hotbeds of theological Liberalism.  Many professors deliberately deceive the institutions by claiming to believe that the Bible is the Word of God, but teach otherwise.  Do some research, since many books have been published.

[Willa]

Universities may teach about Islam and the Koran in the US, and they may teach Buddhist, but they rarely teach that the Bible is the Word of God or any beliefs of evangelical Christians.  They might teach "liberal Christianity" which believe the Bible is written by man and there are/were no miracles, no virgin birth, and no God in human flesh.  So they teach humanism and that Jesus was just a good man.  Even Jesus said that only God is good!  They teach things like comparative religions.

So this is also the approach of some Bible Schools.  The use higher textual criticism and believe that prophecies were made after the stuff happened because they don't understand how God can reveal things to people before they happen.  Many don't understand the working of the Holy Spirit and how He inspired the men to record the thoughts and words of God.  So they teach people to question all they have been taught.  They say that there was no Bible until 400 AD and fail to mention that it was a collection of scrolls until that time.  I think the seminaries may be worse than the Bible Schools.  You can still find good Bible School.  But often people who have a lot of degrees let it all go their heads.  Pride was the sin of satan and educational pride and spiritual pride can be just as insidious.  

1Co 1:25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1Co 1:26  For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.

1Co 1:27  But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 1Co 1:28  and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 1Co 1:29  that no flesh should glory in His presence.

1Co 1:30  But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption—1Co 1:31  that, as it is written, "HE WHO GLORIES, LET HIM GLORY IN THE LORD."

[HisFirst]

Just now, Ezra said:

Because:

1. Universities have become hotbeds of atheistic Communism/Socialism/Progressivism/Left-Liberalism (all basically the same).

2. Seminaries and Bible colleges and schools have become hotbeds of theological Liberalism.  Many professors deliberately deceive the institutions by claiming to believe that the Bible is the Word of God, but teach otherwise.  Do some research, since many books have been published.

So in the first century when illiteracy was the majority and the "Bible" wasn't available, only oral re-telling, how did the ancients know what was true?

[Ezra]

30 minutes ago, HisFirst said:

So in the first century when illiteracy was the majority and the "Bible" wasn't available, only oral re-telling, how did the ancients know what was true?

Israel was the only nation which possessed God's truth, and since about 1,500 BC they had the Torah (five books of Moses). The book of Job might have been even older, possibly from 2,000 BC. Before 1,500 BC the teachings were certainly oral, and because it was so, the traditions handed down did not vary much.

By about 400 BC the entire Tanakh (Old Testament) was in the hands of the Jews, and they read it in the synagogues.  The Jews in Babylonia, Egypt, etc which were outside of Palestine had their own Old Testament ( the Septuagint) but this was a corrupted "Bible". The Samaritans had the Samaritan Pentateuch (also corrupted).  As far as literacy goes, we assume that the populations were generally illiterate, but that may not really be true.  Timothy knew the Scriptures as a child, so children were being taught the "Bible".

The Gospel went to all the synagogues first, and so the early Christians had the "Holy Scriptures" in the first century plus the Gospel, and by the end of that century the New Testament was being circulated among the churches.  Therefore it was not simply oral teaching, but also what was regarded as Scripture which established Gospel truth.

When Christ disputed with the Pharisees, Sadducees, lawyers, etc. they already had various rabbinic "schools" of theology, and the Pharisees at least did not question the Divine inspiration and authority of the Word of God.  They simply put a "hedge" around it with their oral teachings (which were frequently in conflict with Scripture).
 

[HisFirst]

Thanks for that Ezra,

Very interesting.

I will look into all that further, as I am fascinated by the job the 12 disciples did by spreading the Gospel and how "believers" from antiquity, learned and applied in daily living, their knowledge of the Hebrew God.

Edited February 25, 2017 by HisFirst

[HisFirst]

3 hours ago, Ezra said:

Because:

Many professors deliberately deceive the institutions by claiming to believe that the Bible is the Word of God, but teach otherwise.  

See, its these type of things that make me wary of even the humble Church pastor.

[lance.dunlop]

You have to be very careful when choosing a Christian Seminary. Many are fallen heads teaching other fallen heads. But given the right one, they are springs of life. Most people should learn on their knees, with consistent study of Scripture.

[Guest]

It really depends on the seminary, and what the sponsoring denomination (if it has one) is.

Personally I'd love to go to Asbury Theological. But at this point it isn't to be. So my next best option is Northeastern Seminary in Rochester, NY. They're doing some similar things to Asbury and it's a LOT closer to where I live.

[HisFirst]

1 hour ago, CCole1983 said:

It really depends on the seminary, and what the sponsoring denomination (if it has one) is.

Personally I'd love to go to Asbury Theological. But at this point it isn't to be. So my next best option is Northeastern Seminary in Rochester, NY. They're doing some similar things to Asbury and it's a LOT closer to where I live.

Are you looking at becoming a preacher?