Do all Babies go to heaven? YES

[Mama Etna]

I knew a lady when I was stationed in Washington state who had an abortion.  It damaged her health.  Each month she got sick because of the damage it had done to her body.  It has consequences.  She regretted making that decision.

[debrakay]

I recently had a discussion about abortion with a friend.  I explained that I believe unborn children are right back with the Father when they are destroyed/killed/aborted.  At the moment of conception, when their actual life began, the Father put their spirit and soul in them at that moment in time.  That spiritual soul was within that little tiny body and was as individual as you and I are.  But then the mother of that child decided to end that life before it was to ever draw it's first breath.  That tiny child died and returned home to the Father just as we all do when we die if we are one of His forgive and chosen people.  

As far as my thoughts on babies and little children, I believe that each of them also return to the Father for they have not intentionally sinned against Him.  I believe each person comes to the knowledge of good and evil and once they know that difference then sin comes upon the scene and each is accountable at that time.  I do not believe there is a set age when each individual comes to the knowledge of good and evil.

Edited December 27, 2021 by debrakay

[Thornbird]

11 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Who gives you the right to make that decision?

🤨Mine is an opinion, not a decision. 

If someone thinks God would send aborted babies to Hell when he opens Hell to receive condemned sinners, they are the ones that need rethink their opinion.

 

Babies are pure innocence. 👶👼God won't send aborted babies to Hell.

 

 

[Thornbird]

On 12/27/2021 at 10:04 AM, MrBear said:

I think the nail was hit on the head when stated infants are too young to decide sin from righteousness 

Some actually will take it farther as the age of 20 being the age of discernment as when the tribes were counted in the book of Numbers all men were counted over the age of 20 and above

But infants I do not have a doubt unlike the RCC that teaches all of us are born into sin and an infant must be baptized because he/ she is a sinner, my own belief is that infants can’t make that choice to sin on their own and will certainly go to the Father

SHALOM❤️

Thinking God gives an in utero infant a sinful nature because they exist there "unbaptized" is an evil false doctrine regardless of what teaches such a thing.

As if the church is able to purify through its rites the soul God gave the newborn.

That's blasphemy of the highest order in my view.

 

My God is not that. Amen!

And cootchy coo & many hugs, sweet treasures of our Lord, wherever you are .👶👼💕

Edited December 29, 2021 by Thornbird
Changed auto-C's "it's" to its.

[MrBear]

14 minutes ago, Thornbird said:

Thinking God gives an in utero infant a sinful nature because they exist there "unbaptized" is an evil false doctrine regardless of what teaches such a thing.

As if the church is able to purify through it's rites the soul God gave the newborn.

That's blasphemy of the highest order in my view.

 

My God is not that. Amen!

And cootchy coo & many hugs, sweet treasures of our Lord, wherever you are .👶👼💕

Yes I agree 

The RCC wasn’t freeing babies from sin by baptism they were in enslaving them, they were twisting the words of born into sin to put a leash on the peasants

once baptized they were subject to the Pope and were under the RCC’s control, Roman Empire didn’t disappear they just put on priests garments and ruled their subjects behind a pulpit it would be the equivalent of hitler putting on a popes hat and his nazis wearing priests robes still controlling things in a sinister way, twisting doctrine is what the RCC did ,. so baptism wasn’t to free anyone but enslave them from birth and anyone that tried to interfere like the anabaptists were tied up and thrown into rivers 

There will be judgement not by me but the Father who sees all things

SHALOM❤️

Edited December 29, 2021 by MrBear

[Marathoner]

I've avoided this topic for the longest time, maintaining silence for this subject is not simple to reckon in the scriptures. It's a hotbed of debate to be sure. 

I'm moved to respond this morning so I might answer the notion that infants/children are either held accountable for the sins of their parents or held accountable for their own works in the sight of the Almighty. This will be a longer post than usual since it's needful that I explain the judgment rendered in a satisfactory manner.

Ezekiel 18 answers the question, are children held accountable for the sins of their parents? The son will not be punished for his father's guilt, nor will the father be punished for his son's guilt. All souls belong to the Lord for He created us all. 

In pondering the question regarding if infants are received in heaven, there is indeed an answer to be found in scripture. The answer arises from the mosaic of 2 Samuel 12, Ezekiel 18, and statements by the Lord such as we find in Matthew 18 and 19. This mosaic is a demonstration of the harmony of the scriptures.

• 2 Samuel 12: King David, a prophet of the Lord, knew that he would join his infant son when he himself returned to God. The infant is therefore blameless in the sight of the Most High
• Ezekiel 18: The son is accounted righteous by his own deeds or accounted wicked by his own deeds. The individual is accountable to the Lord
• Matthew 18: The Lord praises children, holding them up as the standard for inheriting the kingdom
• Matthew 19:13-15: The kingdom of heaven belongs to children

Therefore, I'm in agreement with the title of this topic. Infants are indeed received in heaven by the Lord. 

It's also needful to address the issue of our own mortality as it relates to this topic, which in my judgment is not a matter left to chance. As for the scriptural example we need look no further than our old friend and elder brother in the faith, the apostle Paul. How so?

Paul was bitten by a venomous serpent... shipwrecked... stoned and left for dead... and suffered all manner of deprivation and hardship during the commission of his duty to our Lord Jesus Christ as His chosen vessel. We can only imagine how many times our brother Paul was subjected to fatal treatment, and yet he endured by the grace and power of the Lord. To put it simply, those times weren't his time. That his appointed time did indeed come --- Paul was martyred --- is known to us all. 

I also draw upon my own experience as further confirmation of that example provided to us in scripture: I have literally stared into my own grave on more than one occasion. I have faced bullets... starved from lack of food... exposed to the elements with no place to rest my head... and have been reduced to something less than human by disease and infections which ravaged this body. I "should" have expired a long time ago, friends. 

Both the testimony of scripture and my own experience relate our mortality to the purpose and will of God, by whom all of us stand or fall. Our Father numbers our days and no other. I'm surely not the only one who has stood before their own grave and lived to testify of the experience. 

There are many of us out there. Some of you are members of this forum with me.  
 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Marathoner

[Marathoner]

42 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

I also draw upon my own experience as further confirmation of that example provided to us in scripture: I have literally stared into my own grave on more than one occasion.

I'm inclined to elaborate somewhat concerning my own encounters with mortality to explain why I'm convinced that we don't depart the earthly realm until that time which our Father in heaven has established. This is accordingly our "appointed time."

I have had a decidedly close relationship with bullets over the years. For whatever reason my fear response isn't exactly normative, so there was a time when I positioned myself between the business end of a firearm and a stranger. Of course, bullets often prove fatal, but this wasn't a concern. I was only concerned for the welfare of the stranger, accepting that I would pay the price for substituting myself in their place so they might escape unharmed. Their life was more valuable than my own.

I have been fired upon. On one such occasion, the bullet tore through space a few inches above my head. That was an interesting experience, to be sure. You can feel the bullet whining through the air. On another occasion, I was shot at by someone wielding a .40 caliber carbine. The bullet missed my body by about an inch, striking the wall directly behind me. 

Then there was that time when I stood outdoors, surrounded by bullets flying all over the place. It was rather surreal. I moved the livestock to relative safety and made sure that my adopted mother was okay (and indoors). The source? A feud between warring members of an extended family who occupied an expansive parcel of land which bordered my adopted mother's land. The elder had passed away and so his sons, grandsons, nephews, et. al., were all trying to kill each other so they might claim sole ownership of the elder's real estate.

I've had a firearm planted against my head by someone who intended to kill me. It obviously didn't work out that way. 

During the 1970's, I was a passenger on a 747 flying from Honolulu to Los Angeles. Midway during the flight, a hole was torn in the fuselage of the aircraft; it generated the most atrocious screaming/whistling noise I have ever heard. Miraculously, the jet remained in one piece and made it across the Pacific Ocean with no harm done to passengers or staff onboard. It was a perfectly surreal experience. 

When it's our time, it's our time. Only God knows when that time shall come; as difficult as it is for us to reconcile the death of an infant or child, we must remember that the Lord is Almighty, and His ways are not our ways.

[BibleWords]

On 3/20/2017 at 1:12 PM, Guest said:

"Predestination?" No, that is not why children go to heaven when they die. Yes, GOD does know who will and will not accept Christ as their Savior. But that is foreknowledge on the part of GOD, not predestination. Scripture teaches us, in Romans 8:28-30 "And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose. For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined He also called, those He called He also justified, those He justified He also glorified." First come the foreknowledge, then the predestination.

The reason that children go to heaven is because until they understand the law and the sin nature, they, because of GOD's Justice, are not held responsible and therefore have not sinned in the eyes of GOD. God is love and His concern for children is evident in Matthew 18:14 where Jesus says, “Your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost.” People go to hell because they choose in willful rebellion and unbelief to reject God and His grace. Children are incapable of this kind of conscious rejection of God. Where such rebellion and willful disobedience is absent, God is gracious to receive.

Couldn’t have said it better.  That is exactly what I have always said.

Foreknowledge always comes before predestination.

Yes all children under the age of accountability go to heaven.

[BibleWords]

On 3/20/2017 at 1:12 PM, Guest said:

"Predestination?" No, that is not why children go to heaven when they die. Yes, GOD does know who will and will not accept Christ as their Savior. But that is foreknowledge on the part of GOD, not predestination. Scripture teaches us, in Romans 8:28-30 "And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose. For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined He also called, those He called He also justified, those He justified He also glorified." First come the foreknowledge, then the predestination.

The reason that children go to heaven is because until they understand the law and the sin nature, they, because of GOD's Justice, are not held responsible and therefore have not sinned in the eyes of GOD. God is love and His concern for children is evident in Matthew 18:14 where Jesus says, “Your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost.” People go to hell because they choose in willful rebellion and unbelief to reject God and His grace. Children are incapable of this kind of conscious rejection of God. Where such rebellion and willful disobedience is absent, God is gracious to receive.

I couldn’t agree more.

Both on foreknowledge/predestination and on the subject of babies going to heaven.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

2 Samuel 12:1-31 - [Believer's Bible Commentary]

B. Confession to the Lord (Chap. 12)
12:1-9   It is generally believed that about a year elapsed between chapters 11 and 12. During that time the hand of the LORD was heavy upon David; his spiritual struggle is described in Psalms 32 and 51. The prophet Nathan . . . came to him with this parable, asking David's judgment on the matter: "A rich man with many sheep was unwilling to use any of his own animals as food when a visitor called on him. Instead, he took the one little ewe lamb belonging to a poor man and slaughtered it. “David could judge sin in others more easily than in himself. He angrily declared that the man should restore fourfold and deserved to die for his sin. Nathan fearlessly pointed the accusing finger at David, saying, in effect, "You are the man who did it. God dealt graciously with you, making you king, enriching you, giving you everything that your heart could desire. But you took Bathsheba from her husband and then killed him to cover your crime."

12:10-14   The king's solemn sentence was then pronounced: His children would be a grief to him. His family would be torn by bloody conflict. His wives would be stolen from him and violated publicly (see 2 Samuel 16:22). His sinful deed would become a matter of general knowledge. David then came to the place of repentance and confessed his sin as being against the LORD. Morgan comments:

Note the "also" in verse 13. A man puts away his own sin when in sincerity he confesses it. That makes it possible for God also to put it away.

Nathan immediately assured him that the penalty of his sin was remitted—he would not die. But the consequences of his sin would follow him. Actually, he would have to restore fourfold (Exodus 22:1), as he himself had decreed concerning the rich man in the parable: The baby would die; Amnon would be murdered (chapter 13); Absalom would be slain (chap. 18); Adonijah would be executed (1 Kings 2).

12:15-23   When the baby became ill, David prostrated himself in prayer and fasting. He was deeply grieved. But when he learned that the baby had died, he arose and ate, explaining that the baby could not return, but that he, David, would one day join the baby when he died. Verse 23 has been a source of great comfort to believing parents who have lost infants and young children.
Matthew Henry comments:

Godly parents have great reason to hope concerning their children that die in infancy that it is well with their souls in the other world; for the promise is to us and to our seed, which shall be performed to those that do not put a bar in their own door, as infants do not.

We can be confident that children who die before they reach the age of accountability go to heaven because Jesus said, "Of such is the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 19:14). [Believer's Bible Commentary]

My wife I lost two children during pregnancy. So although we have no children, we have two with the Lord.