creativemechanic Posted June 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2017 We as Christians have to be careful we don't get so politically correct that we actually endorse sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, Yowm said: Back at ya. Got questions.org Question: "What does the Bible say about transsexualism / transgenderism? Is gender identity disorder / gender dysphoria the result of sin?" Answer: Transsexualism, also known as transgenderism, Gender Identity Disorder (GID), or gender dysphoria, is a feeling that your biological/genetic/physiological gender does not match the gender you identify with and/or perceive yourself to be. Transsexuals/transgenders often describe themselves as feeling “trapped” in a body that does not match their true gender. They often practice transvestism/transvestitism and may also seek hormone therapy and/or gender reassignment surgery to bring their bodies into conformity with their perceived gender.The Bible nowhere explicitly mentions transgenderism or describes anyone as having transgender feelings. However, the Bible has plenty to say about human sexuality. Most basic to our understanding of gender is that God created two (and only two) genders: “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). All the modern-day speculation about numerous genders or gender fluidity—or even a gender “continuum” with unlimited genders—is foreign to the Bible.The closest the Bible comes to mentioning transgenderism is in its condemnations of homosexuality (Romans 1:18–32; 1 Corinthians 6:9–10) and transvestitism (Deuteronomy 22:5). The Greek word often translated “homosexual offenders” or “male prostitutes” in 1 Corinthians 6:9 literally means “effeminate men.” So, while the Bible does not directly mention transgenderism, when it mentions other instances of gender “confusion,” it clearly and explicitly identifies them as sin.What about the possibility that those suffering with transgenderism have a brain that functions as one gender while the rest of the body is biologically the other gender? The Bible does not even hint at such a possibility. However, neither does the Bible mention hermaphroditism (a condition in which a person has both male and female sexual organs), which undeniably occurs (although extremely rarely). Further, people can be born with or develop all kinds of different brain defects or malfunctions. How can it be said that it is impossible for a female brain to be in a male body (or vice versa)?With hermaphroditism as evidence, it cannot be said that if the Bible does not mention something it does not occur. So, it might be possible for a person to be born with a brain wired in such a way that it contributes to gender dysphoria. This could also be an explanation for some instances of homosexuality. However, just because something might have a biological cause does not mean embracing the effects is the right thing to do. Some people are wired with a sexuality on hyper-drive. That does not make it right for them to engage in sexual immorality. It is scientifically proven than some psychopaths/sociopaths have brains with severely weakened impulse-control mechanisms. That does not make it right for them to engage in every deviant behavior that crosses their minds.No matter if the gender distortion has a genetic, hormonal, physiological, psychological, or spiritual cause, it can be overcome and healed through faith in Christ and continued reliance on the power of the Holy Spirit. Healing can be received, sin can be overcome, and lives can be changed through the salvation that Jesus provides, even if there are biological/physiological factors. The Corinthian believers are an example of such a change: “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11). There is hope for everyone, transsexuals, transgenders, those with gender identity disorder, and transvestites included, because of God’s forgiveness available in Jesus Christ. Notice, they say it can be 'healed'. There is much debate in our world today as to the question if transgender is a mental illness or a disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetChee Posted June 8, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 547 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, missmuffet said: There is much debate in our world today as to the question if transgender is a mental illness or a disorder. You said it. In our world today. We are in the world but we are not of the world. There is no debate among Christians who love and honor God. God does not create mistakes in his image and likeness. If someone is born male, they're male. If they're created female, they're female. If they think they can surgically expose the opposite sex they "feel" is inside them, they're mentally ill. Or possessed. Let the world debate. God created them male or female. Period. Edited June 8, 2017 by PlanetChee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted June 8, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,565 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,045 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Mental illness, disorder? ??? Can it not be the result of deliberate sin against God with God then turning the reprobate over to their own strong delusions? Transgenders being under their own strong delusion is that a mental disorder or a spirit consequence? Edited June 9, 2017 by Neighbor On second thought deleted add ons to the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted June 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Judas Machabeus said: I believe the also support gay marriage so I'm not sure how this would be surprising. It's the logical next step. Bit off topic but a story is running right now how a transgender boy won the state girls 100m and 200m championship. The article made sure to point out his time would have placed him in last place if he competed against the boys. Soon there will be no point in having separate events for boys and girls. The girl events will be filled with boys claiming to be transgendered. I agree with you, it's a mental disorder and should be treated and not celebrated. Do you have a link to the story about that track events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted June 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 9, 2017 I suppose the answer would be to find another church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetChee Posted June 9, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 547 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Neighbor said: Mental illness, disorder? ??? Can it not be the result of deliberate sin against God with God then turning the reprobate over to their own strong delusions? Transgenders being under their own strong delusion is that a mental disorder or a spirit consequence? Could be both. What doesn't make news as openly? Post-op Transgenders that regret their decisions. And that they're not tolerated by the Trans community when this is revealed. Just like ex-gays are not tolerated by the LGBTQ community. Not surprising really. They scream tolerance but show no tolerance for those who fall outside the ideal of what is campaigned for as that which must be tolerated. And of course the ultimatum, or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Running Gator said: Do you have a link to the story about that track events? http://usatodayhss.com/2017/connecticut-transgender-sprinter-andraya-yearwood-wins-two-state-titles-amidst-controversy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, missmuffet said: There is much debate in our world today as to the question if transgender is a mental illness or a disorder. What is the difference between mental illness and mental disorder. I've always thought they were interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted June 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Judas Machabeus said: http://usatodayhss.com/2017/connecticut-transgender-sprinter-andraya-yearwood-wins-two-state-titles-amidst-controversy Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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