Oil prices

[irishcowboy]

oh yea, by the way, the government has a wonderful way of fibbing to us, in 1979, they claimed they had a crisis, a shortage.... just about anyone that was living near the Chesapeak bay, could contest to this, that there were tankers lined up for miles fully loaded, actually over loaded with oil waiting to off load.... the only shortage we had, was that we had a shortage of storage facilities.... fact of the matter is, the USA alone was producing more oil that year, then the entire world was the year before......

GREED.....

yes, some of us would be unemployed if we did not drive, and there would be a lot of people that could not get their sewers cleaned out or their busted pipes repaired or their houses built or their big screen TV's delivered if everyone boycotted gass....

mike

[Work in Progress]

oh yea, by the way, the government has a wonderful way of fibbing to us,  in 1979, they claimed they had a crisis, a shortage....  just about anyone that was living near the Chesapeak bay, could contest to this, that there were tankers lined up for miles fully loaded, actually over loaded with oil waiting to off load.... the only shortage we had, was that we had a shortage of storage facilities.... fact of the matter is, the USA alone was producing more oil that year, then the entire world was the year before......

GREED.....

yes, some of us would be unemployed if we did not drive, and there would be a lot of people that could not get their sewers cleaned out or their busted pipes repaired or their houses built or their big screen TV's delivered if everyone boycotted gass....

mike

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

by the way, the government has a wonderful way of fibbing to us

You mean we can't trust the government??? No way!!!

Seriously, I remember that gas shortage. I sat in those lines before school in the morning, with my mom. Would you point me to a source where I can read about your theory? Interesting.

yes, some of us would be unemployed if we did not drive, and there would be a lot of people that could not get their sewers cleaned out or their busted pipes repaired or their houses built or their big screen TV's delivered if everyone boycotted gass....

What do you mean?

[Gerioke]

gas makes the world go boom

[irishcowboy]

Seriously, I remember that gas shortage. I sat in those lines before school in the morning, with my mom. Would you point me to a source where I can read about your theory? Interesting.

yes, some of us would be unemployed if we did not drive, and there would be a lot of people that could not get their sewers cleaned out or their busted pipes repaired or their houses built or their big screen TV's delivered if everyone boycotted gass....

What do you mean?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

first off, i watched as tankers would pull in and off load oil on to another tanker sinking it down to where the water line would be well belose the surface of the water. no theory....

second, a lot of those that are self employed use a vehicle for service work, plumbers, heat and air peeps, delivery peeps, and many others...

[Work in Progress]

sinking it down to where the water line would be well belose the surface of the water

Sorry to be stupid, but I really have no idea what you are saying.

As to the other - duh to me. I see what you are saying now. Delivery trucks, repairmen etc. Got it.

[irishcowboy]

sinking it down to where the water line would be well belose the surface of the water

Sorry to be stupid, but I really have no idea what you are saying.

As to the other - duh to me. I see what you are saying now. Delivery trucks, repairmen etc. Got it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

not stupid, unless a person has been around ships and such, they might not ever even think about it..... most boats have a dividing line that is somewhat horizontal ( even small boats ).... this is a water line..... ships have a line ( water line ) for when the ship is loaded to its max capacity, and as it looses its load smaller marks will start showing up as the ship rises out of the water, some have numbers by them, indicating the depth of which it can go before reaching its max load capacity.

when a ships water line disappears, ( starts riding lower in the water ) this is an indication that the ship is being overloaded.... the tankers that i was watching out east, were way low....

anyways, i hope that helps some....

mike

[Work in Progress]

Oh! Thanks for making it idiot-proof. LOL! Got it now.

You mean - I sat in those long lines for nothing??? Wait 'till I tell my mother!

(not laughing at you - I believe you!)

[Cerran]

Average price of $22 in 1990 and average price in 2004 (finally found it) of $38.47 is almost double the price. By simple math it should at the very least be almost double the price. Account for inflation of 18% and bam you have $2.10 gas.

$38.47 is 75% more than $22

1.75 x $1.00 gas in 1990 is $1.75 + 18% inflation = $2.065 per gallon.

Now Add $0.45 - $0.70 for taxes and bam $2.50-$2.75 gas.

Now account for higher emissions requirements, China, and Refinery Capacity.

Gas is artifically held low in price by US government subsidies as well. Corprate welfare to oil companies is commonplace.

Even without tax, gas should be well over $1.75 a gallon. Actual prices without government intervention put it at around $5 - $7 a gallon.

[irishcowboy]

in 1986, gas prices in Iceland were over a dollar a liter....(actually close to five bucks a gallon )...........

mike

[Guest Fluffy the Cactus]

Much of the oil that's used in the Northwest, however, comes from Alaska. Much of the oil used in the southeast, comes from the middle east. Why is it that the southeast has much cheaper gas prices than the Northwest?

Hrmm, maybe we should all start buying hybrid vehicles, using mass transit or... oh, what the heck, why don't we all go on strike? If all of the American people REFUSED to buy gasoline for one week (yes, I realize it would be nearly impossible, but hear me out on this), maybe it would send OPEC and all the oil companies a sign that we are sick of being exploited. I make next to minimum wage, which, in Washington is 7.35/hr, so I'm not doing too bad thanks to this wonderful thing called a 'minimum wage'. I didn't know they had this when I was in WV. LOL. But still, at 2.50/gallon, I'm thinking that I'm gonna have to break the news to Jenn that we're gonna be using the bus to get around. LOL. Houston Oil Party... I like that idea. But... the Boston Tea Party was a protest against taxes... we'd have to come out with an original twist to it. Eh, it'll never happen. People will keep driving their SUV's, Vans, Trucks, etc. (whether they actually need one of those or not varies on the person), and the gas prices will keep going up and up, and one day... only the rich will drive. Eh, maybe it'll be a good thing for our environment, who knows? But it still hurts, ya know?