Born again

[byHisGrace]

Angels, I thought that was a great post!  I copied and pasted it on another message board that I frequent where most of the people are into wierd religions or athiests.  Thanks, hope you didn't mind.

[byHisGrace]

Well, I did post it-under religious discussion and this is the answer I got,

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Hi

Can anyone show me where being "born again" has to do with our life in these bodies. What im asking i guess is are we sure that being "born again" is not at the end of the age when we shall all be changed.When we put on incorruption instead of corruption. As i look at my question im not sure i understand what im trying to ask.Ill ask it anyhow.

[RCruise]

Hi

Can anyone show me where being "born again" has to do with our life in these bodies. What im asking i guess is are we sure that being "born again" is not at the end of the age when we shall all be changed.When we put on incorruption instead of corruption. As i look at my question im not sure i understand what im trying to ask.Ill ask it anyhow.

Hi Waldens:

I hope you don't mind me shortening your name as it is easier for posting.

Have you personally accepted Jesus Christ and are now a Christian?

I ask because although the answer Biblically is always the same in any circumstance, it helps to know where you stand to put forth the best explanation.

As for Scripture:

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

[tsth]

I would just like to offer this Scripture for consideration.

1 Peter 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls.

1 Pet. 1:22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, the word of God which lives and abides forever, 24 because "All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, And its flower falls away, 25 But the word of the Lord endures forever." Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[tsth]

John 8:31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.

1 John 2:24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

John 1:1-2

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest suzie]

Great discussion.  We are born again in our spiritual rebirth--not to death but to eternal life. "And you also were included in Christ when yu heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in  him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession-to the praise of his glory" (Ephesians 1:13)

The Holy Spirit dwells in us from the very moment we believe, and begins a work of sanctifying us. "Therefore, is anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (2Cor 5:17) "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husbands will, but born of God." (John 1:12-13)

[Guest C.D. Light]

Hi

Can anyone show me where being "born again" has to do with our life in these bodies. What im asking i guess is are we sure that being "born again" is not at the end of the age when we shall all be changed.When we put on incorruption instead of corruption. As i look at my question im not sure i understand what im trying to ask.Ill ask it anyhow.

Being born again has everything to do with it. Being born again means the Holy Spirit renews our mind and we begin to see things as he wants us to see things. We become very aware of what is sin, what is good, what is evil, foul language and all the evils in the world become repulsive to us.

The Holy Spirit removes old sinful habits and ways we used to have, and replaces it with doing what is right and what is good.

We become a NEW person. We "put on the new man, the do away with the old man", thru the Holy Spirits activity in us.

We then love the things we used to hate, and hate the things we used to love.

CD

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Thanks all

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Hi again all

JOHN 3  [2] The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.[3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.[4] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.[9] Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?[10] Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?[11] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.[12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

1PETER 1 [13] Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;[14] As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:[15] But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;[16] Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.[17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.[22] Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

[23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.[24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:[25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

1COR.15  [42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

[43] It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.[46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.[47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.[48] As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.[49] And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.[53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.[54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.[55] O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Its pretty simple-I guess we wont be taking these bodies to the kingdom