Once Saved always Saved, Is A Doctrine Of Devils

[Bro.Tan]

22 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

A person has intellect, unless you believe in Darwinism.

In the scriptures its written in  Proverbs 3:5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 

[Heb 13:8]

2 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

In the scriptures its written in  Proverbs 3:5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 

Works will not save you, only the blood of Christ will. filthy works, filthy rags. Isa 64:6.

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Works will not save you, only the blood of Christ will. filthy works, filthy rags. Isa 64:6.

Are you VERY YOUNG ?

Trusting Yahweh through Grace in Jesus is required.

IF you call that "works", you have been very  , very deceived.

[simplejeff]

8 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

  22 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

A person has intellect, unless you believe in Darwinism

And if you put your trust at all in your own intellect,   that is as bad as Darwinism .... (i.e. no salvation, only a curse)

[Bro.Tan]

On 11/3/2017 at 5:46 PM, ytLiJC said:

 

there is a lot of scripture, but it wasn't given me to quote or refer to a scripture in my previous post here, and i am not surprised, because the One Who is really the true Lord God prefers us practicing the faith to (us) reading Scripture, because as the one who can solve any math problems is more able than the one who has only memorized things such as multiplication table, so the one who writes and preaches the perfect truth of God is more worthy than the one who only reads books and listens to sermons - in fact, if those prophets and saints of God didn't write the books that we call biblical/Scripture nowadays, then we would have no Bible/Scripture - after all, we have to believe in God, examine, test, reflect on and prove things, and reason - if the Bible reading was enough for the religious worshipers to become and be sinless/righteous, then the world would be full of billions of perfect saints, but alas...

the matter at hand in my previous post is the fact that if there was life in Paradise lasting for all the time's infinity without any transition/interruption or end, then there would not be so much evil with so many humans/souls in this world under the conditions of sin and death, because they all would be in that Paradise, not in these hellish conditions

Ecclesiastes 9:2 (NASB) "It is the same for all. There is one fate for the righteous and for the wicked; for the good, for the clean and for the unclean; for the man who offers a sacrifice and for the one who does not sacrifice. As the good man is, so is the sinner; as the swearer is, so is the one who is afraid to swear."

i.e. there is an eternal circle of existence, positions of and events with the souls, because God would be unjust if He didn't make it be so, for it is not possible that the "darkness" be destroyed completely and permanently for all the time's infinity, or why would one really good father allow there to be evil for his children if he can completely and permanently remove evil from the world in which they live?!

Blessings

Allow me to add Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. A man would do well is he or she takes heed to a wise man.

 

[Heb 13:8]

2 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Are you VERY YOUNG ?

Trusting Yahweh through Grace in Jesus is required.

IF you call that "works", you have been very  , very deceived.

Ok, so if you're trusting His Grace, why do you believe you can lose your salvation. Did His Grace not pay the sin penalty?

[Heb 13:8]

2 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

Allow me to add Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. A man would do well is he or she takes heed to a wise man.

Your works will not save you.

[Bro.Tan]

5 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Works will not save you, only the blood of Christ will. filthy works, filthy rags. Isa 64:6.

Paul said in (Gal. 6:3-5, 7) (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it. (v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

Don't sound like you and Paul on the same page! 

[Heb 13:8]

Just now, Bro.Tan said:

Paul said in (Gal. 6:3-5, 7) (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it. (v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

Don't sound like you and Paul on the same page! 

Your works will not save you, only the blood of Jesus will.

[Bro.Tan]

1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Your works will not save you.

Lets go into (Ezek. 33:30-32) Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord. (v.31) And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness. (v. 32) And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not. Hopefully the time will come when you realize that you need more than lip service when it comes to serving the Lord. You must learn what thus saith the Lord, and do it!