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A atheist and me started talking and their main argument was God can't exist if he existed before time.How do i explain this?

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Brief analogy; a very simple one. Stand at the center of a wagon wheel. On the circumference time is happening slowly. From the center the 'spokes' are various time-lines that converge at different points on the circumference. The circumference is unaware of anything but what is before it, behind it, and where it is currently. 

As you stand at the fulcrum center-point, you can see or move to any point on the rim of this wheel. That might be the Lord's position. However, He has other wheels He can be involved in as well. They also intersect with His fulcrum at the center, but those wheels are incidental to the others, although the rims, or circumferences intersect as well. Each rim is oblivious to the others. But all meet at the center where God is. As such He is outside of time, but very much a part of it. He keeps those wheels spinning.

Wheels within wheels...

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God existed before Creation.  He exists outside of time and is not subject to the laws that govern His creation.

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1 hour ago, zorgblar said:

A atheist and me started talking and their main argument was God can't exist if he existed before time.How do i explain this?

Time cannot exist without God having created it.

Time is a measure made for man by God so that man may see and undertand as prophesies made unfold in front of man's eyes as told to his ancesters many centuries before his own awareness of himself.

God  has always known us. We on the other hand do not know of time before time at all, and cannot comprehend in depth time after time. But both exist, always have outside of the confines of man's limited ability to  comprehend.

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Time is a physical thing, God is not. Physical things begin and end.

God has taught us all through the bible to relate the spiritual to physical examples.

Ask them where space begins and ends.

 

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Perhaps the work of  Clarence Larkin will help your athiest understand your knowledge,  though without the Holy Spirit indwelling  them, they will not  comprehend the spiritual significance of it.

Reference: https://mavcor.yale.edu/conversations/object-narratives/rightly-dividing-word-truth

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1 hour ago, zorgblar said:

How do i explain this?

Everything needs a parent (except itself), you cannot just go on and say: If all is created, then something would have to create God.

That would mean an infinite recursion, and that is not possible logically. Everything has a source, a starting point, in this case God - The Creator.

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1 hour ago, zorgblar said:

A atheist and me started talking and their main argument was God can't exist if he existed before time.How do i explain this?

You can quote many verses to show that time is immaterial to God. Will that change his belief? I don't think so. Atheists like to engage in these debates with an intent to put believers down. To put us down that they are superior to us in knowledge. While they lack true knowledge of God.

And how does he explain why God can't exist before time? What is the argument for that? There would be none.

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2 hours ago, zorgblar said:

A atheist and me started talking and their main argument was God can't exist if he existed before time.How do i explain this?

Read the Bible to get an answer.

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