When are we born again of the Spirit

[Mike Mclees]

Are you Born again of the Spirit?  How do you know?

 

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. ²¹ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. ²² Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. ²³ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. ²⁴ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth          Jn 4:20-24

 

God desires truth in the inward parts

Edited December 24, 2017 by Mike Mclees

[ytLiJC]

yes, with truth and spirit, and unfortunately such worshipers turn out to be scarce nowadays

Blessings

[Dennis1209]

On 12/24/2017 at 9:12 AM, Mike Mclees said:

Are you Born again of the Spirit?  How do you know?

 

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. ²¹ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. ²² Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. ²³ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. ²⁴ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth          Jn 4:20-24

 

God desires truth in the inward parts

When you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior, you immediately become baptized with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit indwells you. If this is what you're asking?

We pray to our Heavenly Father in the Spirit and in truth, and He listens, hears and answers when we pray in the Spirit and truth, according to His will. 

[Waggles]

On ‎25‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 1:42 AM, Mike Mclees said:

Are you Born again of the Spirit?  How do you know?

That's easy and pretty straight forward - God is always exact in his commandments on what people need to do.

We can read for ourselves in Acts Of The Apostles how the first church did things in obedience to the word of God 

following the teachings of Jesus their Lord and Saviour. 

37  Now when they had heard these things, they had compunction in their heart and said to Peter and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren?
38  But Peter said to them: Do penance: and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39  For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2: DRB

Jesus told us through his word that believers would be clearly identified 

15  And he said to them: Go ye into the whole world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall he condemned.
17  And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues.
18  They shall take up serpents: and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay their hand upon the sick: and they shall recover.
19  And the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sits on the right hand of God.
20  But they going forth preached every where: the Lord working withal, and confirming the word with signs that followed. 

Mark 16: DRB

So simple so easy like ABC or 123 

repent from your previous life 

believe the gospel 

be baptized in water by full immersion confessing your faith for the forgiveness of your previous sins 

seek the gift of the Holy Spirit and when you are baptized in the Holy Spirit you will speak in a new tongue 

you will be given a new spiritual prayer language to communicate directly with Jesus and your Father in Heaven.

Then come the blessings, and the miracles, and the healings and other gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed to the 

saints as you need and as you seek and pray for. 

5  Jesus answered: Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7  Wonder not that I said to thee: You must be born again.
8  The Spirit breathes where he will and thou hear his voice: but thou know not whence he comes and whither he goes. So is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 3:

[john14:6]

No one is born-again without the work of the Holy Spirit in that person. The moment that person trusts Christ's finished work on the cross, His shed blood there, and His resurrection the Holy Spirit moves into the new believer's life.

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, john14:6 said:

No one is born-again without the work of the Holy Spirit in that person. The moment that person trusts Christ's finished work on the cross, His shed blood there, and His resurrection the Holy Spirit moves into the new believer's life.

Not according to Acts chapter 8 

[john14:6]

20 hours ago, Waggles said:

Are you saying that Acts chapter 8 teaches that the Holy Spirit is not involved in an unbeliever coming to Christ for salvation? Please explain.

John

 

Edited January 14, 2018 by john14:6

[Waggles]

It is often said that - 

"When you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior, you immediately become baptized with the Holy Spirit,

and the Holy Spirit indwells you."

this is simply not true. 

Acts 8: 

12  But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13  Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14  Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15  Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16  (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17  Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. 

1> it is not automatic that believers receive the Holy Spirit straightaway on commitment or confession of faith 

2> Acts 19:2  He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? ...

3>  How did the apostles Peter and John know that the Samarians who believed the gospel had not as yet received the Holy Spirit? 

Something was missing - the sign spoken of by Jesus in Mark 16:17 - speaking in a new tongue by the Spirt 

Receiving or being baptized in the Holy Spirit needs to be encouraged and asked for 

Luke 11:13  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father

give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Edited January 14, 2018 by Waggles

[Joyinchrist777]

Yes, I agree that once a person puts there faith and trust in our Lord Jesus Christ and asks for forgiveness of sins and believes in their heart that He has been raised from the dead, that person will be saved. Romans 10:9-13 . I believe that the scripture teaches that once salvation occurs, the holy Spirit is given to us at the same time. Romans 5:1-5. also look at Romans 8:1-17. Verse 16,"the spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...". We as children of God who have been justified therefore receive the spirit. Eyes are opened and the darkness flees. 

[Joyinchrist777]

On 1/12/2018 at 10:06 PM, john14:6 said:

No one is born-again without the work of the Holy Spirit in that person. The moment that person trusts Christ's finished work on the cross, His shed blood there, and His resurrection the Holy Spirit moves into the new believer's life.

I agree with this statement. We become children of God.