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Saying you don't need to follow any rules, and you can run around and live however you want, is part of the OSAS doctrine. A clear manipulation of scripture.

Do you do what Jesus says? What did Jesus say: "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

 

”Rule following” is great ! I’m all for it ! Count me in! Gods rules are for our own good—-the more of them I follow, the better-off I am. I thank Him for His Commandments!      Unfortunately, rule following does not save anybody. That’s why the Good News is indeed, good news! Paul’s Gospel thAt SAVES is found in 1cor15:1-4. I hope new Believers understand that faith and faith alone is what saves. I also  hope that they read Romans 15, so when the dust settles from this debate, they will clearly see that Believers obsessed with what days to worship etc are saved Believers who are merely  as Paul says “weak Believers”. Please ignore the first sentence in the above quote—-it is not true, I don’t believe it and I never said it. God bless and strive to be strong in the faith!

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9 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

No one is judging you.  This false accusations of what people do and what they say seems to be a regular thing with you.  Perhaps you should think about, like, stopping it, and stuff.

You, and a few others here are going around telling people they have to keep the Sabbath.  We are not the ones telling you to do, or stop doing anything.  If you want to go to Church on Saturday, then go.  Who cares.  But that does not mean that you are keeping the Sabbath, and it does not mean you have the right to tell anyone they have to do the same thing.  There would be only two motivations for that kind of behavior:

A)  You either feel morally superior to others and feel this gives you a right to tell them what to do.

B)  You know your doctrine is wrong but for some reason want others to be in error with you.

How can you determine what accusations of mine are false?

Again, point to where I said anyone has to keep the Sabbath.

You have an inborn hostility on this forum to the slightest suggestion of law obedience. 


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10 minutes ago, Sam Smith said:

Unfortunately, rule following does not save anybody.

This isn't a salvation thread.


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YOU are the one that brought up OSAS....


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2 minutes ago, Sam Smith said:

YOU are the one that brought up OSAS....

It had little to do with the point I was making. 

Even If I did make that statement a basis. Your response would still hold no value, as I didn't say you must keep laws in order to be saved.


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I thought I said “weak Believers” were saved Believers.....if I made an error somewhere please forgive, I am not here to argue with you. I am only addressing new Believers in the hope that they will be strong in their faith......not weak.

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7 minutes ago, Sam Smith said:

 

I thought I said “weak Believers” were saved Believers.....if I made an error somewhere please forgive, I am not here to argue with you. I am only addressing new Believers in the hope that they will be strong in their faith......not weak.

I'm not here to argue either. Only to state what I see as the truth.

Thanks for your kind response. 


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You are welcome, my erroneous brother.......JUST KIDDING......lol.  This little debate means nothing in the larger scheme of things.......I think we agree on the important stuff.....God bless you and yours!

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12 hours ago, Sam Smith said:

Take it up with Him

If you quote, quote completely otherwise it is false witness.

He said, to continue your quote '... on this hang all the law and the prophets'. NOT substituted for or replaced the law and prophets, but it intimately connected TO the law and the prophets.

It is far easier for you to just humbly bow to the Lord God and keep His Commandments than strain at false and misquoted scriptures.

Just like the Jews of old, people will do just about anything to circumvent laws and observances.


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12 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

You are living by the old covenant. We are no longer married to the law. Read Rom 7. In christ we live by the spirit. The holy spirit gives us a new nature. We walk by love. 

If you teach that then I pity you.

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