Fundamental Baptist

[kittylover0991]

The church i go to is "an independant, fundamental, separated, pre-millennial, autonomous, missionary minded, King James Bible believing local church which stands with the Lord in opposition to humanism, worldliness, new evangelicalism, and the modern day charismatic movement."

Can anyone explain the following terms...

1.independant

2. fundamental

3.seperated(differnce between that and independant?)

4. pre-millennial

5.autonomous

6. NEW evangelicalism

7. modern day charismatic movement

?

[Khristeeanos]

The church i go to is "an independant, fundamental,  separated, pre-millennial, autonomous, missionary minded, King James Bible believing local church which stands with the Lord in opposition to humanism, worldliness, new evangelicalism, and the modern day charismatic movement."

Can anyone explain the following terms...

1.independant

2. fundamental

3.seperated(differnce between that and independant?)

4. pre-millennial

5.autonomous

6. NEW evangelicalism

7. modern day charismatic movement

?

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The church I go to is a Christian church. We accept no creed but Christ and no division among us.

[Kitten]

The church i go to is "an independant, fundamental,  separated, pre-millennial, autonomous, missionary minded, King James Bible believing local church which stands with the Lord in opposition to humanism, worldliness, new evangelicalism, and the modern day charismatic movement."

Can anyone explain the following terms...

1.independant

2. fundamental

3.seperated(differnce between that and independant?)

4. pre-millennial

5.autonomous

6. NEW evangelicalism

7. modern day charismatic movement

?

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Ok, I don't understand this topic. What in the world is a Fundamental Baptist?

[kittylover0991]

lol..... that is what i am trying to find out......

[Khristeeanos]

lol..... that is what i am trying to find out......

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It basically means strictly adhering to orthodox beliefs held by the Baptist church from my understanding.

The church Keisha (my lovely bride) grew up in was probably similiar to your church.

1.independant

2. fundamental

3.seperated(differnce between that and independant?)

4. pre-millennial

5.autonomous

6. NEW evangelicalism

7. modern day charismatic movement

1. Not part of a huge denominational headquartered group of churches like the Southern Baptist Convention

2. see above

3. not sure

4. Talking about the rapture and end times of when Jesus comes back and how He will set up a temporary earthly kingdom before we all go to heaven.

5. self-governing I believe

6. not sure

7. MDCM is stuff like Benny Hinn and the faith-healing miracle people who speak in tongues and the like (not to be confused with regular Pentecostal denominations like Church of God and Assembly of God).

[Leonard]

Basically, I think that means 'RUN! (DON'T WALK) TO A DIFFERENT CHURCH.'

Any church so ornery and contrary they've got to define themselves that closely, simply isn't going to be a place for pleasant people!

There's a church in Phoenix called 'The Jesus-Name, Holiness Church of God in Christ, of the Apostolic Way, Believing and Teaching Acts 2:38'. It was inhabited by a most unpleasant folk.......

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

Careful Leon I'm an indepentent Baptist.It means that CHRIST runs the place not some man-made organization that oversees all the Baptist churches in its group.GOD directs us.... not an organization.fundalmentalism means that we take all the statements in the BIBLE literally(dont you?).Now 5,6,&7 I have no idea about .

[kittylover0991]

lol Leon. I find the people at my church very helpful, kind considerate, but founded in the Word of Truth. That does explain why my church is so strict in what the bible says. I honestly thought that most churches were like this.

now i need to find out autonomous and new evangelicalism... interesting...

lol bloodbought

[OneAccord]

Here's a blurb on New Evangelism (basically it is evangelizing for the sake of numbers and growth in the church rather tahn a committed discipling of new members & conforming to the culture being witnessed to, marketing schemes as witnessing tools rather than just the plain truth of the gospel, etc.)

Two False Assumptions of New Evangelism

Our deathly evangelism will work hard to avoid assuming what most of the new evangelism assumes. The latter assumes two things at its heart that are mistaken: (1) It is good for the church to conform to the culture in which it finds itself, and (2) It is good for the church to keep track of its health in terms of numerical growth.

Regarding the assumption of cultural conformity, this mistake is made in the name of effectiveness. Interior decorating, dress, verbal expressions and music are increasingly controlled by this cultural conformity. With it the church begins to look more and more like the culture in which it lives. But this is wrong. Rather than conformity to our regnant culture, the church is to bring instead a culture that is new and different and "not of this world" (John 18:36). Therefore Christians are not to be "of the world," just as their Lord is not "of the world" (John 17:16). As such the church promotes the saying: "Be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect" (Romans 12:2). Being preoccupied with tailoring the message of the church to the current cultural idiom is therefore wrong.

If the Gospel is the Word of God... then the "content" of the Gospel simply is itself the "language" of the Gospel. While this does not mean that we merely mimic the language of the Bible, it does mean that our interpretation and proclamation is positively determined and structured by the linguistic logic of the Bible and not by any set of pre-determined "characteristics of culture." Such pre-determination stifles the free course of the Word of God, rather than setting it loose in the world. [so] the planting of the church in the 1990s is no different from the planting of the church in A.D. 90. The church is planted as the seed of the alien Word of God who comes to us and our world from outside of us and in radical otherness from all our expectations, to tear down the securities we have built for ourselves (that are death to us) and raise up on their rubble the new walls of the heavenly Jerusalem (which is life to us).

And regarding the second assumption about numerical growth, this mistake is made in the name of dedication. Hard work, keeping busy, showing concern, caring about people, and wanting to share what is good all undergird the importance of numerical growth. But this is mixed up. Our work must address the change of a human heart rather than more and more people enjoying one another through a shared membership. Indeed it is so that "there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine religious persons who need no repentance" (Luke 15:7). Therefore,

"Growth" is never the business of the church. Faithfulness, truthfulness, and discipleship in the public presentation of Christ to the world--that's the business of the church. Worries about "growth" are left to the will and work of the Holy Spirit.

[OneAccord]

Separated means:

4. A Separated Church -- separated ecclesiastically from apostate groups such the World Council, the National Council, New Evangelicalism, etc. and separated personally, using the great principles of the Bible for a dedicated Christian life.

(Don't worry, yod, it's a clean post )