Trees in Scripture

[Heleadethme]

38 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

You loved sister .    the trees are used figuratively as men .   Is this not something amazing .   i too have read that part where JESUS first healed him

and he said I see men and trees walking , then the second time he restored his sight back to normal.   ONLY JESUS DONT MAKE MISTAKES

THEIR was a purpose for why that occurred.    Its not like JESUS slipped up and was like OH no , here let me try again .   NOPE the man was seeing in the SPIRIT  realm.

Yeah.   JESUS don't make mistakes .    You be blessed sister .   

Amen!  And written down expressly for a reason....that we would learn from it.

[frienduff thaylorde]

Throw those hands up sister and praise the Lord .     My soul is lit on fire yet again .    The joy of the LORD is our strength.

[Heleadethme]

13 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

Now I want to try and make the case that the Assyrian of Ezekiel 31 (v.2) who was a tree in the Garden of Eden (v. 18)is the same Lucifer/Assyrian spoken of in Isaiah 14.......and see if it fits........please compare the OP (Ez. 31) with Is. 14 below.  And also keep in mind that Jesus/Messiah is referred to as  the "Branch" elsewhere in scripture, ie, a tree in other words (of life)......similarly Lucifer is called an abominable branch (a tree in other words) below:

Isa 14:3-26

And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

But thou art cast out of thy grave like an ABOMINABLE BRANCH, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

 

Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

That I WILL BREAK THE ASSYRIAN in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

 

Posting them together in case it helps to see the similarities.

EZEKIEL 31:1-18

And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the third month, in the first day of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,Son of man, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, and to his multitude; Whom art thou like in thy greatness?

Behold, THE ASSYRIAN WAS A CEDAR in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.

The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.

Therefore his height was exalted above all the trees of the field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth.

All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all great nations.

Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters.

The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty.

I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and his heart is lifted up in his height;

I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his wickedness.

And strangers, the terrible of the nations, have cut him off, and have left him: upon the mountains and in all the valleys his branches are fallen, and his boughs are broken by all the rivers of the land; and all the people of the earth are gone down from his shadow, and have left him.

Upon his ruin shall all the fowls of the heaven remain, and all the beasts of the field shall be upon his branches:

To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.

Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.

I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

TO WHOM ART THOU THUS LIKE IN GLORY AND IN GREATNESS AMONG THE TREES OF EDEN? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.

[frienduff thaylorde]

We love our sister he leadeth me .     Praise the Lord sister .      You seem to be enjoying your writings of the usage of trees.    Well YOU LOVED SISTER

And if you want to discuss trees you just do it .     Onward in the Lord sister .     

[frienduff thaylorde]

my advice is let all run to the GREEN TREE,   cause not a soul wants to be of the dry tree ON THE LORDS DAY.  

Run peoples ,  gather under that tree,  be Of its ROOT .  and no matter how harsh the sun burns , no matter how fierce the wind blows

THEM BRANCHES BEAR FRUIT and have the JOY of the LORD .    Onward peoples ,    and praise the LORD . 

[Heleadethme]

16 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

We love our sister he leadeth me .     Praise the Lord sister .      You seem to be enjoying your writings of the usage of trees.    Well YOU LOVED SISTER

And if you want to discuss trees you just do it .     Onward in the Lord sister .     

Amen....it's wonderful how the Lord is revealing what that wicked Tree was in the Garden.  Such an epic and tragic thing that led to the need for God to send His Son to suffer and die for humanity.......so not too surprising that there are more things written alluding to it in scripture, more scriptural witnesses of it.  The good news is that in both Ez. 31 and Is. 14......we see that the Lord will bring it to a certain end, and fell that Tree, especially in Is. 14, it is very emphatic.  Well, it is a warning actually. 

 

[Heleadethme]

TYING EZEKIEL 31 AND ISAIAH 14 TOGETHER……..ANITCHRIST PROPHESIED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT

 

.....because it says in the New Testament, “as you have heard Antichrist is coming”

2Th 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

BOTH THESE CHAPTERS ARE ABOUT “THE ASSYRIAN”, ie they are both talking about the same thing:

 Is. 14:25

That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Ez. 31:3

Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches…

 

BOTH CHAPTERS TALK ABOUT HIM IN TERMS OF EXHALTING HIMSELF IN HIS HEART HEAVENWARD:

Isa 14:13-14

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ez 31:10

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and his heart is lifted up in his height;

 

BOTH CHAPTERS ALLUDE TO THE ASSYRIAN AS TREES:

Isa 14:8

Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

Isa 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground…

Isa 14:19

But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch…

 

Ezekiel 31:3   Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon….

Eze 31:7

Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters.

Eze 31:8

The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty.

Eze 31:9

I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

Eze 31:18

To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden?

(And hopefully it is not too hard to see the original Antichrist in the Garden of Eden now…..that particular Tree of note and infamy.)

 

BOTH CHAPTERS PROPHESY OF HIS CERTAIN JUDGMENT AND GOING TO HELL AND THE GRAVE:

Isa 14:9

Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isa 14:11

Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isa 14:15-17

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

 

Eze 31:15-17

Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.

I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

 

Thank you Jesus for the light of your word, for the Body of your word broken open like bread so we could eat and be satisfied.

[frienduff thaylorde]

18 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

Amen....it's wonderful how the Lord is revealing what that wicked Tree was in the Garden.  Such an epic and tragic thing that led to the need for God to send His Son to suffer and die for humanity.......so not too surprising that there are more things written alluding to it in scripture, more scriptural witnesses of it.  The good news is that in both Ez. 31 and Is. 14......we see that the Lord will bring it to a certain end, and fell that Tree, especially in Is. 14, it is very emphatic.  Well, it is a warning actually. 

 

I have pondered on this .    It says the knowledge of good and evil.   God had told them NOT to eat of that tree.

the sin was in the act of Disobediance to GOD and what is the result of sin ,    ITS end is death.     FOR YOU shall surely DIE in the day you eat thereof .

Sin leads to death.  Any act of disobedience to God is sin and the end of sin is death .   Now them apostels knew that very well.

For paul even said you are servants to whom you obey , whether of sin unto death,  or OBEDIANCE unto righteousness.

Jesus came to set us free from sin .   Only HE can justify us .   Our faith must be in Him.    And paul was making that very clear

to some who were trying to go back under the law that if you try and stand jusitifed by the law you have fallen from grace.

Yet paul made this clear too.   But if while we SEEK to be justified by faith , we ourselves are found sinners, IS JESUS the minister of sin . God forbid .  HE is not .

And JESUS made this clear too,     where He says many in that day will say Lord in YOUR name did we not do many good works ,cast out demons

And he will say , depart from me I never knew you , you who worked Inquity .  

What is sin , what was the act ,    disobedience to GOD.    What does the SON do, what do we have THE SPIRIT , what does it unction us to do,   OBEY GOD .

its so clear to see.   we do have His spirit within and it does unction us and give us the ability , that IN HIM , by faith in HIM ,

by heeding Him , by walking after the SPIRIT we wont fulfill the lusts of the flesh.   

We must heed the Green TREE,  and the branches that bear fruit he prunes so they bear more fruit .   cutting away the dross and dead things

keeping the branches cleaned and ready for service .     We must HEED the great Shepards voice at all times .  

I remember in Ezz,   and In issiah , places it speaks of specifically calling out the spirit in king tyrus ,    Ye have been IN the garden

in one place it speaks of how great a tree it was ,

And we sure know it weren't the tree of life .   Whatever tree it was ,  I assure us all man should never have taken the serpents advice to

disobey God and eat of the tree God said not to eat of .    For in the day he did ,    he died . 

But praise GOD that In CHRIST man is made alive again .       Praise be to the LORD .    Praise be to THE LORD .    Now let us obey HIS voice and feast on biblical doctrine .

[frienduff thaylorde]

Notice in places in revelations where the scorpions of the earth are not allowed to touch the green trees , green grass, JUST the men who have NOT the mark of GOD .

Again I see men in the place of trees .   Read ezzekial,   the writer who had the inkhorn was commanded TOUCH not the men who have the mark of GOD on them .

the pattern IS the same .    Its why IF we have Christ and we keep feasting on holy scrips , more and more would we begin to understand revelations

and not do as many have done and say its all ready be done .    Revelation JUDGMENTS speak of a time that is not behind us ,   oh but it does approach fast .

The whole world is now fast building and the hour , the final hour is approaching .   Their is no accident a UNIFYING one all inclusive mindset and religion is fast building

their is no coinicidence that all is moving so fast , that evil is filling places to the full and the solutions to the worlds ills is under the guise of UNITY

but does their unity INCLUDE JESUS as THE ONLY WAY , as the ONLY way as in ONLY.   nope   ,  it dislikes that

so then where is this unity under all inclusive REALLY leading the world to ,   to worship as one mind , one heart in the last final hour , THE BEAST .

AND ITS INCREASING .    This is why by grace I have warned against this false unity , false love , and to watch out for their meditations

cause under those all who are doing so are getting linked into this UNITY .     it is true , this began as  a small crack and the more men chopped

away at the foundation , the pattern that JESUS set ,  then the drips began to leak in , till now the world soon reaps what it has sown .

The dragons mouth is opening and the flood it will bring will cause the world to go after the saints .  the flood that comes out of its mouth

is peoples ,  but the earth will open her mouth and like n the days of moses swallow up that flood , but the dragon will continue to

go after those who worhip JESUS and keep the commands of GOD.      a monster tribulation IS building to come against all

who by grace were kept from the lies that lead to the dark king and kings .    A very dark and sinister thing has happened in the land and many churches

and more so will buy it ,     In the name of love unity and peace,   JESUS is being stripped of HIS HONOR as the HEAD and all religions

are and will be seen as equal , THEN the head they followed WILL RISE , for the only head that would teach this all inclusive lie IS satan . 

Sister , we really Are coming to the end of this age and a huge tribulation will come for all and against all who were quiet in the land and loved JESUS above all.

And more and more cannot see the lie for what it is and who its leading too.  SISTER they thinking its GODS WILL for world peace and unity

ONLY the last time I checked GOD don't honor all gods and religions as equal NOW DO HE .   ITS LEADING TO satan playing GOD and by peace destroying many .  ITS A SNARE

ITS A SNARE ,  COME YE OUT FROM AMONG THEM < COME OUT and by YE HOLY peoples ,  and the LORD does receive His own .  

[Heleadethme]

23 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I have pondered on this .    It says the knowledge of good and evil.   God had told them NOT to eat of that tree.

the sin was in the act of Disobediance to GOD and what is the result of sin ,    ITS end is death.     FOR YOU shall surely DIE in the day you eat thereof .

Sin leads to death.  Any act of disobedience to God is sin and the end of sin is death .   Now them apostels knew that very well.

For paul even said you are servants to whom you obey , whether of sin unto death,  or OBEDIANCE unto righteousness.

Jesus came to set us free from sin .   Only HE can justify us .   Our faith must be in Him.    And paul was making that very clear

to some who were trying to go back under the law that if you try and stand jusitifed by the law you have fallen from grace.

Yet paul made this clear too.   But if while we SEEK to be justified by faith , we ourselves are found sinners, IS JESUS the minister of sin . God forbid .  HE is not .

And JESUS made this clear too,     where He says many in that day will say Lord in YOUR name did we not do many good works ,cast out demons

And he will say , depart from me I never knew you , you who worked Inquity .  

What is sin , what was the act ,    disobedience to GOD.    What does the SON do, what do we have THE SPIRIT , what does it unction us to do,   OBEY GOD .

its so clear to see.   we do have His spirit within and it does unction us and give us the ability , that IN HIM , by faith in HIM ,

by heeding Him , by walking after the SPIRIT we wont fulfill the lusts of the flesh.   

We must heed the Green TREE,  and the branches that bear fruit he prunes so they bear more fruit .   cutting away the dross and dead things

keeping the branches cleaned and ready for service .     We must HEED the great Shepards voice at all times .  

I remember in Ezz,   and In issiah , places it speaks of specifically calling out the spirit in king tyrus ,    Ye have been IN the garden

in one place it speaks of how great a tree it was ,

And we sure know it weren't the tree of life .   Whatever tree it was ,  I assure us all man should never have taken the serpents advice to

disobey God and eat of the tree God said not to eat of .    For in the day he did ,    he died . 

But praise GOD that In CHRIST man is made alive again .       Praise be to the LORD .    Praise be to THE LORD .    Now let us obey HIS voice and feast on biblical doctrine .

Yes, God warned them not to eat of that tree, and Eve disobeyed when she believed (ate) of the word (seed) of the serpent (its fruit).  That tree was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired and good for food......and as it says elsewhere, when lust has conceived (seed) it gives birth to sin which results in death (James 1:14-15), so what happened in the Garden that day was according to that pattern.  The Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil was just the opposite (antithesis, antichrist) of the Tree of Life, Jesus, who had no particular comeliness in His appearance....had she heeded/believed His voice instead, eating His word/fruit/seed, she would have reaped life instead of death.  

Yes....Ezekiel 28.....king of Tyre.....also is an echo of Is. 14 and Ez. 31......there are similarities that link all three of those passages.....many kings are types (King of Babylon, Assyrian, Pharaoh, King of Tyre) because there are many antichrists, and they all hearken back to the original antichrist in the Garden of Eden.

Thank you frienduff, for a fruitful conversation.