The animal part of creation

[Constant]

No silly these are my pets and the only other animals I like are for food like chickens, cows, etc.... lol though!

[Gerioke]

I like all animals that don't attack me.

[Frisbinator]

This is in response to "One Accord".

Not Mr. " There IS condemnation in Christ, so I am going to condemn you and tell you that you are not a Christian in my eyes ".

You can disagree w/ me all you want, that's fine, but to tell me that I'm not a Christian just because I say that I don't really care about some biological hunk of meat that would just assume kill me or dominate me were I another species, is just plain mean.

Thank you for your comment, "One Accord" but if you think that bringing up every single verse in the bible where they simply mention animals is going to prove my point that animals are nothing but organic machines devoid of personality, which run on instinct and understand only respect and dominance, then I

[nebula]

Fris -

You said animals ruled the world before humans.

That is contrary to Scripture.

This is what I was questioning.

[jmh137]

Frisbinator,

Out of curiousity, are you an avid hunter?

Edited May 7, 2005 by jmh137

[Gerioke]

certainly not with PETA

[Fiosh]

I think it will be more like the Garden of Eden, where the animals weren't necessarily pets but that Adam was a steward and keeper and all lived in harmony without fear, death, killing, etc.

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I think this is the key. When God created the world, He saw that it was good.

God created man & woman to live with Him in the Garden of Eden. That is God's idea of "very good".

I often wonder if the "new heaven and new earth" will be a return to things as they were in the Garden?

[Fiosh]

certainly not with PETA

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We should cut the guy some slack. Maybe he got bit by a chihuahua when he was a kid???

[jmh137]

[jmh137]

Gerioke, you keep me rolling in my floor. You keep me on my toes.

Frisbinator, I am not an animal activist. I just been trying to share some of the things that I feel the Holy Spirit is showing me. I totally disagree with your view and I am not ashamed to say it. Practically every scripture that anyone used on this thread concerning animals you have said it was symbolic. I wonder if you have a thumping gizzard instead of a heart. Of course the Word of God is symbolic; yet it is so literal at the same. It can be all things and anything to man. Tell me is it ever to late to learn? Is there still room for enlightenment for mankind, or has he reached is perfect peak? There is no one so blind as the one who will not see.

This morning I saw two of the same kind of animals ( I won't say what the were) on the road. One had been ran over. It was dead. The other was in the road, unwilling to leave yet. It wasn't waiting around to eat the other one, because they were probably very close family members. It was still very much dark. This was on a road where at this time of the day practically no vehicles are travelling. I don't know how long the incident had happened before I went through, but I know in my heart and in my spirit the that live animal was in mourning for the other. Say what you will as your gizzard thumps. I hope that it doesn't thump so loud that you are unable to hear what you need to hear. I'm not passing jugement on you. I just want you to expand your horizons a bit.

Fox alert!!! I saw the Mom and her three "kits" (that's what the babies are called) yesterday. I didn't leave them any bread, but I wish I had. She stayed right there near the road and I talked to them. They were in the ditch in some fairly tall grass. One or two times one of the babies would come out and come near the road, as if to see who I was and hear what I was saying. Why? I haven't quite figured that one out yet. This was about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. So try to understand. I don't want to hear any of mankind's egotistical goings-on of how our loft perch is soooooooooooo high up. I'm not under any delusions of what man (I am talking mainly about myself) is capable of. It's only by God's grace that I haven't split hell wide open. Some had better re-think this. When animals mourn over their loved ones and so forth. I think our God is due more credit then He is often times given.

I must get some sleep now, but the Lord wanted me to also point out something from His word. I will be back to work out some more of my "postpartum issues." For now I sign off. .......jmh137